Warhammer wiki- discussion

[Skrall]

Ok lads, i\'m taking suggestions for the structure and set up of the wiki site, so anything you\'ve got, post it and well review it

Hawke

[adders]

Thanks for doing this Hawke - so if you think there is a category missing or if you have any other suggestions let us know - here\'s the link www.warhammerwiki.org.

[adders]

Hey guys to give you an idea of how I\'m planning to structure each army page take a look at this.

The content needs rewriting as I\'ve just ripped it off from else where for now, it\'s just there to illustrate how things should look.

http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Space_Marines

So go for it, feel free to add content for other armies etc.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Liking the structure and the plans for interlinking the articles and stuff (like \'boltgun\'). But why no section on chaos dwarves...and dare I say squats ;)

It could be me, but it seems a bit dark at the moment. Now don\'t get me wrong, I enjoy my fair share of darkness and shadowy skulking. But what about a slightly ligher, perhaps even textured, background. I don\'t know, something like a dark marble structure perhaps? Kinda like what we have going on right here at astro.

I\'ll also have a look if I can\'t put together something for an article this weekend. Might give chaos, DE of WE a go...if I can sqeuze it in with my work and my own DE ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/19 21:23

[Hephesto]

Well my first contribution is in, CSM. Feel free to make whatever layout changes you want Adders. Expect a serious expansion in a few days, just curious but how do you make to sublinks like you did with the SM article?

In fact I think I\'ll adapt the chapter division you made for space marines. Helps to keep things unified ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 09:28

[Hephesto]

Double post, put everything together...so someone please hunt this one down ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 10:14

[Hephesto]

Just did a bit more work on the layout and subsection (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Space_Marines)), wondering if this is what you guys had in mind. Actually very handy that Adders did the SM as example, just opened to thing to edit (didn\'t edit anything) and I got \'the code\' figured out in 10 seconds.


For others wondering how to get it to work, a quick guide to making chapters;

Lets say you want to make 1 chapter on history with two subchapters;

== History ==

=== Part 1 ===

=== Part 2 ===

Creating sublevels is also very simple

[[sublevel name]]

Putting it together, using csm as an example;

== Organisation ==

=== Organisation ===

=== Appearance ===

To this day the largest concentration of Chaos Space Marines reside in the Eye of Terror, launching attacks ranging from lightning strike to devestating system wide war. The various legions and their surviving primarchs claimed worlds inside the Eye of Terror for themselves where most of them stayed originased not much different from their loyalist brethern. Though chaos marines can take various forms and shapes, they are without a doubt an imposing sight. Nearly half a metre taller than a human, incased in ancient power armour and some of them bearing the experience of 10.000 years of war and bloodshed. While loyalist marines can easily outlive a human, chaos marines under the influence of the warp in the Eye of Terror can live for milennia. How the chaos marine himself looks depends upon a great many factors, not in the least how much time he spends in the Eye of Terror. Merely being there can lead to great power, but inevitably also to corruption and mutation. The is especially true of cult chaos marines who have devoted their lives ot a specific chaos creature they revere as a deity and who’s blessings are often clear to see. Both their armour and weapons are often adorned with spikes, skulls and various sigils proclaiming their loyalty to chaos and war

Through the milennia various groups of loyal marines have turned renegade under the influence of their masters, mutation or things much worse. So although the original chaos marines are undoubtably the strongest among their kind, the largest portion of the current traitor marines are relatively new coming from conflicts like the Badab War or as the result of Inquisitatorial persecution.

=== Famous Chapters ===

[[Black Legiom]]

[[Iron Warriors]]

[[Alpha Legion]]

[[Night Lord]]

[[Word Bearers]]

[[World Eaters]]

[[Death Guard]]

[[Emperor\'s Children]]

[[Thousand Sons]]


Here we have the organisation chapter, with 3 subchapters (organisation, appeareance and famous chapters) with added sublevels to the individual chapters.

Now get writing people, I\'ll fill up the rest of the chaos stuff in the course of the next week or so ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 10:16

[adders]

Heph you\'re a star.

Karma Boost for adding the CSM stuff.

Karma Boost for the how to write a chapter article too.

Chaos Dwarfs and Squats will definitely get included, we can stick them in races.

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:

Heph you\'re a star.

Karma Boost for adding the CSM stuff.

Karma Boost for the how to write a chapter article too.

Chaos Dwarfs and Squats will definitely get included, we can stick them in races.

:laugh: 2 karmaboosts in one, that has got to be a first, thanks Adders. I\'ll get cracking on the rest of chaos during the course of the next week or two. Something tells met this warhammerwiki is going to cost me a large amount of my free time....and work time for that matter. Still it is all in a good cause.

If you want I can look at some other things as well, stuff like Necrons, Beasts of Chaos and naturally the Armageddon Wars. In fact I\'ll upload the first 2 pieces of the Armageddon Wars in a few minutes, might be stuck at university but I have no work till 1 :S

EDIT; any suggestions were it would fit best, history perhaps?

Might even get around to more, but that kinda depends on my schedule the next couple of weeks.

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 10:22

[adders]

Hello Heph

Armageddon should definitely go in History I reckon.

Feel free to delve into any section you want, it\'s all about collaborating and making each and every entry the best it can be through working together.

It\'s a very different approach to article writing on Astro which has a single author.

So that people that make a lot of additions get credit, I\'ll add an entry crediting them on the about us page of the Wiki.

We can even include links to author bios there for those that would like that.

But that will have to wait \'til we have a workable wiki - get stuck in guys.

Thanks again Heph

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Cool stuff, just curious wouldn\'t it be an idea for someone to make a backup of all the stuff once more articles start going up. Since a lott of people can access it, it would be a shame to loose all the work due to some (insert whatever slang you want) decides he or she is bored and start going nuts on the system. Could just be my paranoid mind of course ;)

Well The Armageddon Wars, overview, parts 1 and 2 (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_The_Galaxy) are up.

Took a bit of editing, but it should work like this and I\'d better apologies in advance for any spelling mistakes still in there...after a while I don\'t see my own mistakes anymore ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 11:16

[adders]

Hello Heph

Definitely a concern.

But the Wiki has it covered, as admin I can roll back changes, so I can review changes and reject them if I wish.

I will still back up the db regularly as I do on Astro.

Thanks for the new article - I\'ll spell check it myself in a bit when I get the chance.

As you\'re taking such a keen interest Heph, fancy having the access to accept/reject changes?

I won\'t get a chance to sort this out for the next week or two - need to do a few other bits first, but let me know and I\'ll do it when I get the chance.

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:

As you\'re taking such a keen interest Heph, fancy having the access to accept/reject changes?

:laugh: woow, I\'m flattered! I\'d be more then happy to help out on this one as much as I can, so count me in!

And thanks again for the offer!

[Ziggy Tempest]

.... oh right.
i\'ll put the tactica articles on now if they haven\'t already been

i\'ve added a few articles but am having trouble copying over images. any help?

link to tactica (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_Tactics)

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/20 13:32

[Skarfang]

In case anyone\'s noticed i\'ve started on Orks!

Also how do you get the contents bit at the top? I want to do the next section but I don\'t know how to! :laugh: :pinch:

[Hephesto]

WarlordSkarfang wrote:

In case anyone\'s noticed i\'ve started on Orks!

Also how do you get the contents bit at the top? I want to do the next section but I don\'t know how to! :laugh: :pinch:

I noticed, good start Skarfang!

Well lets see if I can put this thing down again in an understandable manner :P
__________________________________________________ ___

Lets say you want to make 1 chapter on history with two subchapters;

== History ==

=== Part 1 ===

=== Part 2 ===

__________________________________________________ ___

Creating sublevels is also very simple

[[sublevel name]]

__________________________________________________ ___

Putting it together, using csm as an example;

== Organisation ==

=== Organisation ===

=== Appearance ===

Spiky bits, skulls, sigils, bladibla...etc;)

=== Famous Chapters ===

[[Black Legiom]]

[[Iron Warriors]]

[[Alpha Legion]]

[[Night Lord]]

[[Word Bearers]]

[[World Eaters]]

[[Death Guard]]

[[Emperor\'s Children]]

[[Thousand Sons]]

__________________________________________________ ___

Here we have the organisation chapter, with 3 subchapters (organisation, appeareance and famous chapters) with added sublevels to the individual chapters.

You can add even more subchapter by add more =\'s

So if you\'d want to add another subchapter so say chapter 2.1 to create chapter 2.2.1 you\'d do the following;

== Title chapter 2 ==

text

=== Title chapter 2.1 ===

text

==== Title chapter 2.1.1 ====
__________________________________________________ ___

Still trying to figure out how to get pictures in, but this should help get you started. So keep up the good work!

[Aun O Vader]

Yeah, I\'m having the same problem skarfang, I\'ve started on the weapons of the IG, but I can\'t create the top link at the moment, help on this would be appreciated

[Ziggy Tempest]

Gaunts Expert level (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Tyranid_Tactica:_Gaunts_Expert_Lev el)

using hephestos article as a reference (didn\'t change anything) i added the above. could someone check it?



@indra i had to delete the parts refering to the images as there seems to be a problem with embedding images (will sort asap)

@adders will there be a link in the toolbar somewhere to the wiki?

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/20 14:52

[Hephesto]

Nicely done colonel tempest, I found out how things work by checking otu adders sm article. Also had some problem with pics, certain we\'ll get it eventually ;)

[Hephesto]

AunO Vader wrote:

Yeah, I\'m having the same problem skarfang, I\'ve started on the weapons of the IG, but I can\'t create the top link at the moment, help on this would be appreciated

:laugh: completely missed this one, either check out one of mine (csm/armageddon) or Adders\'(sm) articles to discover the structure of check down 1 post.

[Skarfang]

Yep i\'ve worked it out folks you just have to include the next chapter title on the previous one eg.

== organisation ==

=== ork clans ===

=== famous ork clans ===

== History ==

By putting history at the bottom it opens up the next chapter once you\'ve saved the page and doesn\'t then show it on the previous chapter which is why i couldn\'t work it out! It also automatically creates the contents bit at the top! :)

[Ziggy Tempest]

have added some more.

look here (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_Tactics) to have a look.

i also created an article about myself. you can find it at the bottom of the tactica page...

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/20 15:09

[Aun O Vader]

Ok, this is getting infuriating, I can\'t get the blasted contents page to be created, what the devil do I need to do?

On a side note I\'ve done a quick preview of the intermediate nids article and it had a lot of spelling mistakes in it, I think I\'ve got them all, might be worth someone else having a read through as well.

This is looking mighty cool people, I like this project a lot!

[Hephesto]

If you\'re talking about the weapons of the IG, I\'ve found the \'problem\'. Very small thing though, for some unknown reason you need to start with an == title ==.

Just did a preview and if you add

== Imperial Guard ==

as the first sentence you should be set ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 15:53

[Aun O Vader]

thanks, Heph, I\'ve managed to make it work like that now, but it doensn\'t look right, and it doesn\'t look like nay of the other articles, which don\'t need that first sentence. What the problem is I dread to think!

[adders]

Hey Aun - what page you struggling with?

I\'ll take a look and let you know where you\'re going wrong.

Well done for getting things going guys.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

this one (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Weapons_of_the_41st_Millennium:_Th e_Imperial_Guard)

For some reason it won\'t do the same as the tau article (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Weapons_of_the_41st_Millennium:_Th e_Tau_Empire)

[Kiefer13]

hmm, should we meld the Imperium of Man Project into this? It\'s a kind of similar thing. B)

[Ziggy Tempest]

i\'ve sorted out your problem now. you didn\'t have the coding done right.
for a table of contents to be displayed you need a title at the start
look at this code for an example.
you need to have the triple quote marks before and after the word or it won\'t display properly as a table of contemts.


=\'\'\'Warhammer 40,000 Tactica\'\'\'= (main title)

==Tyranids==

==Dark Eldar==



this would display a table of contents labeled Warhammer 40,000 tactica with tyranids and Dark Eldar under it.

if you ever have a problem with the code then take a look at a similar article and pay attention to how the code is used


i seem to like this wiki stuff.
brings out the coder from within.



[edit]
i added some text to the community portal and included a link to astro.
community portal (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_Wiki:Community_Portal)

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/20 17:32

[Aun O Vader]

Yeah, I can get it to do that, and if I create a new article and type the stuff into that one then I can get it work that way, what isn\'t working is that the IG article won\'t code in the same way as the Sm and Tau articles!

[Ziggy Tempest]

the ig article is fixed now. is there any other problems with it?

[Hephesto]

Kiefer13 wrote:

hmm, should we meld the Imperium of Man Project into this? It\'s a kind of similar thing. B)

Probably best and this was more or less what we had planned/hoped on all along ;)

[Aun O Vader]

Don\'t ask me why, but I have added a Lasgun at the beginning of the article and it has fixed the whole thing! Go figure, but I am happy now, it would simply appear that the article didn\'t like starting with the autocannon!

[Ziggy Tempest]

i already fixed the article.

if the problem was with the table of contents then i fixed it.

[Hephesto]

:laugh: as long as it work!

Well im stuck at university for the rest of the night, so I\'ll get some more stuff done on CSM ;)

[DarthXander]

The style sheet doesnt seem to be working for me.

I get the side navigation next to nothing.
Then below that the homepage proper.
Then below that the adverts side bar...

[Hephesto]

Same for me, was fine this afternoon when I was on my other pc :S

[Aun O Vader]

Haven\'t tried the styles sheet yet, but Weapons of the Eldar is posted now, and I\'ve started the structure for the Tau Empire section.

[Hephesto]

Looking good Aun, good to see everybody is really getting involved.

Just did another piece for chaos link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Full_list_of_chaos_chapters%2C_tra itor_guard_and_mutant_hordes) Did I forgot any chaos legions? Still need to do traitors. Anakwanar Sek and Etogaur here I come ;)

One piece of advice though, don\'t change the name of a subsection if you didn\'t save the text on your pc somewhere or it will be gone :P

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/20 21:30

[Hephesto]

B) Well I think I have them all now (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Full_list_of_chaos_chapters%2C_tra itor_guard_and_mutant_hordes)) . Still need to finish the info on about a dozen or so. Think I might actually be getting a bit to deep into this stuff...coming soon...the new subsections on the fleets of chaos and the magisters of the Archenemy during the Sabbat Crusade :P

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/21 02:13

[adders]

Hey guys this is coming on strong, Great piece of work on the Chaos Chapeters Heph.

I think the wiki is just so much better at handling this sort of project then the Content Managment System Behind Astro.

By the Aun, I got Auto Cannon First I don\'t know if it helped but I put spaces between the == and the word Autocannon so likethis == Autocannon == rather than this ==Autocannon==.

Cheers

[adders]

Just found a fantastic tool - it coverts HTML to Wiki code.

Just used it to covert The Vultures great Tau Language article to wiki code. It was laid out in a table and would have taken forever to re-format.

If anyone else needs to use this you can find it here http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/html2wiki/

Cheers

[Aun O Vader]

I\'ve just added a section on the Fallen into Hephs Chaos Marines section, hope you don\'t mind. If you want to change it feel free.

[Hephesto]

AunO Vader wrote:

I\'ve just added a section on the Fallen into Hephs Chaos Marines section, hope you don\'t mind. If you want to change it feel free.

No problem Aun, actually quite helpful as I still have loads of stuff to check up on for the rest of that csm section. I\'m especially looking forward to the larger segment on the blood pact/sabbat world, love that stuff! Also need to check if I remember all the details about the volscani cataphract correctly...the whole Kasr Tyrok incident thingy ;)

I\'ve also added some more subsections (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Space_Marines)) to the main csm page and I think I should have the main structure together now. I was just wondering in anyone out there would happen to have white dwarf 282 it has an artivle in it on how/why the defilers were created. I\'m in particular interested in that black legion techpriest\'s name, remember reading it somewhere back in the day but I just can\'t remember it :S

Ah well all the other stuff that still needs to be done should keep me busy for now ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/21 11:08

[Indra]

I\'m not too au fait with this Wiki format at all, I never really used Wiki ever, so I\'m total noob to this. Having said that I started a little bit on nids in it.

Indra

[Indra]

And damned if I know how to do subsections....

Ah well I\'m sure it\'ll all come out in the wash!

[Aun O Vader]

it\'s all to do with the = symbol. have a look at someone elses article and chack how they\'ve used the =.

[Indra]

I see.

a == creates a header
a === creates a bold header

and so on to create the subsections.

Having said that, how do you create the contents table as seen in the CSM section?

EDIT:

Wait I think I have it...

== creates a Section
=== creates a subsection and every subsection generates a menu item at the top?

Lets go see...

Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 13:01

[Hephesto]

Indra wrote:

I see.

a == creates a header
a === creates a bold header

and so on to create the subsections.

Having said that, how do you create the contents table as seen in the CSM section?

EDIT:

Wait I think I have it...

== creates a Section
=== creates a subsection and every subsection generates a menu item at the top?

Lets go see...<br /><br />Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 13:01


Lol, I just edited your headers but looks like you have it. Hope you don\'t mind, it was just to easily show you how it works.

But for some reason it doesn\'t always seem to work, in case that happends just cpy/paste a section that already works and insert in it your section and replace the text with yours.

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/21 13:07

[Ziggy Tempest]

you can keep on adding ===== to make more sub-sub-sub... sections.

[Indra]

Gotcha.

And Heph, I was wondering why the hell the stuff I set up didnt appear...

LOL

Indra

Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 13:09

[Hephesto]

Looking good there Indra, this thing is really starting to kick of.

Dibs on necrons and csm ;) I\'ll get some more stuff done on csm this weekend and get started on necrons somewhere coming week. I have already put of a general layout so that should help.

[Indra]

You want to look now mate, I\'ve laid the tables and sections out ready for the Species alone...

Hot Damn I\'m good!

[Hephesto]

Indra wrote:

Hot Damn I\'m good!

Ah such a humble man ;)

Great work though, looks like you really have a bit of \'work\' ahead of you.

[Indra]

Well I\'ve added Biovores and Spore Mines already, and not a glimpse into the codex. I\'ll be writing entirely from memory on this one, tat way I can avoid any issues such as Copywrite law.

:)

Indra

[Hephesto]

Same for me with chaos, all from memory. Save a few of the traitor regiments name and armageddon details I had to look up to see if I remembered them correctly.

[adders]

Guys, don\'t quote me on this but I think the difference between sections working and not is leaving a space between the == and the section header, this seems to have fixed Aun\'s Autocannon problem.

So ==Autocannon== bad

== Autocannon == good.

Oh and I\'ll work on making the wiki look nicer next week.

Cheers

Post edited by: adders, at: 2007/07/21 15:06

[Indra]

Hey adders, I did all the Tyranid stuff on the ==abc== format and it worked.

Anyway, I need to ask a question now- the Wiki seems to be adding links as I save them down, but I have taken them out now. How do I get them to work in the Wiki to get them to go to the relevant section? At the moment they just link to the blank page that they create.

Is there a format to which I need to enter the section titles or something?

Indra

PS BTW I added a shed loead more stuff of the bigger creatures you dont see anymore, might wanna go peek!

[Brannick]

Indra wrote:

Hey adders, I did all the Tyranid stuff on the ==abc== format and it worked.

Anyway, I need to ask a question now- the Wiki seems to be adding links as I save them down, but I have taken them out now. How do I get them to work in the Wiki to get them to go to the relevant section? At the moment they just link to the blank page that they create.

Is there a format to which I need to enter the section titles or something?

Indra

PS BTW I added a shed loead more stuff of the bigger creatures you dont see anymore, might wanna go peek!

:)

Woops - that was me using your post to test the links. I noticed you had taken them out. I was trying to get them working using your Tyranid post as a test-bed. Apologies.

I think the links, for what I can assess, only work when an item has it\'s own dedicated page (I think).

Check out the item \'Kharn the Betrayer\' and you will see working links.

Bran

[adders]

Hey there Indra

If I follow what you\'re asking here, you create a link to a new page by typing the name of the page you want to create between [[Name of new page]] and if you want to link to an exisiting page you need to type the name of the page as it appears at the top of the page between [[Name of existing page]].

This is kinda different to the usual way links work online (simpler in many ways), but basically the link text has to equal the name of the page you\'re linking to.

BTW - they are case specific so \"Hello\" is a a different page to \"hello\".

Hope this helps

Cheers

[Indra]

CURSE YOU BRANNICK CONFUSING ME SO!!!!

LOL

OK Adders I\'ll stab at that.

EDIT

Having Stabbed and Prodded, I find that it works to pages directly outside of the existing content article.

So I cant link it back to an earlier article on the same page it needs to be on a different page altogether.

I think...

Indra

Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 15:43

[Brannick]

Ok, I think I have sussed this out.

I have created a \'Gorechild\' page with a short demo reference with a working link to the Kharn page.

On the \'Kharn the Betrayer\' page I have a working link reference to the Gorechild page.

Works a treat.

[EDIT}

Indra - I think you are right. You are never going to get all those Tyranid links to work because they are all on the same mass page, unlike the Chaos Space Marines stuff, for example.

Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/21 15:46

[Indra]

I saw those, but they were all seperate pages, what I wanted to do was to have it linked ro an article elsewhere on the same page so it would refer directly so.

But that failed. I could do it, but I\'d have to create new pages and link them theat way, so I\'d have all the info on there twice. Dont know if thats a wise idea.

[Brannick]

Indra, could you not log the Malefactor, Exocrine, Haruspex etcetera under a sub-heading?

You could then in the subheading \'Heavy Beasties\' have the [[Exocrine]] and this would allow the links to work.

Shall I try a demo?

[EDIT]

Looking at this again, we may well be able to do it using the \'Sub-Species\' link/page.

Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/21 15:57

[Indra]

Feel free to take a shot mate, if it works it\'ll cut down the page sizes nicely, but I wanted to avoid having HQ/Elite?Troops/Fast Attack/Heavy SUpport style headings as I wanted the Nids section to be more of an informal source rather than a gaming source if you know what I mean, and soing the Sub headings like that would possibly create that.

I dont know, I was tempted to do it by gene-pool, but there are so many cross overs from one species to the next that that wouldn\'t work.

What do you think?

EDIT:

I wanted to tell those of you who havent yet looked, I have done the following entries in the Tyranid section:

Malefactor, Exocrine, Haruspex, Dactylis, Harridan, Biovore, Spore Mines so that theres a reason to look sooner rather than later as all the other unit types are generaly covered in the codex, although they too will be getting Indrafied.

Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 16:06

[Brannick]

Indra - keep checking here as I will EDIT this post when I have made an amendment.

Then you can post to say if you approve or not......here goes.

[Hephesto]

Nice one Brannick, wasn\'t really sure how this interlinking thing worked the Kharn example really helps clarify stuff!

[Indra]

You can add Norn Queens to my list of big things!

Indra

[Brannick]

Oh crap, my screen just went \'white screen\' then screwy when updating the \'Sub-Species\' section.

[Indra]

Well I\'ve been looking and I\'ve edited as wel, to keep the headings on the secions as seperate headings as per the contents as you took away the === parts, but the linky still works, so if you can keep the === pre and suffixes on there in case they fail.

I tried a few myself but had not a lot of luck. Myabe I\'m doing it wrong.

@CT

I edited your link to your sticky Art of War post in the Wiki as you added an extra http bit, so that works now.

Indra

Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 16:39

[Brannick]

Right,

I think it is safe to say that the items needs to be categorised before they link.

So, using Chaos Space Marines for example and the Kharn/Gorechild items.

You have the main categories: -

== Notable Characters ==

and

== Wargear and Unholy Relics ==

[[Kharn the Betrayer]] is a link within the Notable Characters section and [[Gorechild]] is a link within the Wargear and Unholy Relics section.

As they are linkyed they then show as seperate sub-sections under the main categories.

So, for the Tyranids you need to list the items as individual main categories with themselves linked within their own category, for example: -

== Harridan ==
[[Harridan]]

or

You need to make main categories to accommodate the forces, for example: -

== Big Bugs ==
[[Harridan]]
[[Haruspex]]

This way you can link them all up.

[Indra]

Yeah I see. I thought that might have been the case.

But if thats the case altogether then trying to do this is a waste as all people have to do is scroll up to the top and use the contents list.

Stuff it, I\'ll not bother with it, its a waste of everyones time. But if I have other categories and I can link them then I will (See the Gaunts when I\'ve done them and I\'ll link them to their weapon type later on)

Indra

[Brannick]

True enough Indra.

It\'s basically whether you want \'links\' to work or not I guess.

I have restored all my test items back to normal for you.

[EDIT]

Indra, you might want to do a trial run of your Gaunt/Weapon link just to make sure it will work because if my linking theory is correct, then I don\'t think what you suggest will work unless you make Gaunts and then Gaunt Weaponry main sections.

Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/21 17:06

[Hephesto]

To be quite honest I kind of some doubt about extensive interlinking. All it takes is for someone to make a simple, probably even logical correction and a lott of different links won\'t work anymore. Therefor I\'ll stick to only interlinking stuff in their own section. So only csm will have links to other csm items liek legions etc. Good idea?

[Indra]

Having reviewed the testing done so far I have concluded that the linkage that I wanted to do will not work, so I will leave it to the contents at the top. I wanted to strike a decent level of detail in one place, and the current layour seems to work well enough for me. The only other thing I might try is to create new pages to keep it neater, so I\'ll likely do that sooner rather than later before the workload mounts up.

Indra

[Hephesto]

That is probably the best thing for now, we need the material before we can even think about interlinking/adding layers and what not. Looks like we all have quite a bit of work ahead of us, fun work though.

But I\'m of now...time to finish some WE conversions and free some wookies from trandoshan slavers...Republic Commando here I come :P

[Indra]

Too late, I\'ve redressed my section. It\'s far cleaner now, and allows me to link as well. You will all see!

:)

Indra

[Brannick]

Indra wrote:

Too late, I\'ve redressed my section. It\'s far cleaner now, and allows me to link as well. You will all see!

:)

Indra

Kudos Indra.

You can now have maximum linkage fun :lol:

[Indra]

Well I actually prefer it this way and it keeps it clean. All I have to do now is fill it up with allt hat lovely Tyranid information.

Hope you all keep track of the thing, as you will see I\'ve done a horrendous amount already...

Indra

[adders]

Hey there guys - I think interlinking will be more feasible once. A large amount of the content is up by then hopefully content title will be pretty much settled on and if someone does make a change they could post on Astro so that anyone who knows they\'ve linked to it can amend.

Also once I set the access rights, people can be given control of a certain area and they will be able to help make sure these things don\'t happen. Even if by ensuring announcements are made when page title changes occur.

Cheers

Post edited by: adders, at: 2007/07/22 09:35

[adders]

Indra wrote:


OK Adders I\'ll stab at that.

EDIT

Having Stabbed and Prodded, I find that it works to pages directly outside of the existing content article.

So I cant link it back to an earlier article on the same page it needs to be on a different page altogether.

I think...

Indra<br /><br />Post edited by: Indra, at: 2007/07/21 15:43

That\'s right - did you want to link to new areas of the same page?

If so it works like this:

[[#Guants]]

This link links to The Gaunts section of the page.

If you want to link to a specific section of another page you do this:

[[Tyranids#Guants]]

This link links to The Gaunts section of the Tyranids page.


Additionally ignore what I said before about link text only being able to be the same as the page title. In the link below this goes to the Tyranid page, Guant section and the link text is \"Snazzy Link Text\".

[[Tyranids#Guants|Snazzy Link Text]]

Hope this makes sense.

[adders]

Just had a thought, If say for the individual army pages (tyranids, CSM etc) we gather all the content on a single page (unless it is obvious that the content should go elsewhere), kinda as we are at the mo.

We could then copy and paste that content to other pages later to make the top level army pages more managable. so they are a bit shorter, as I can imagine that these page could become absolutely huge.

So a good solution could be as follows:

Initially an indepth description of Guants physiology, weapons etc could start on the tyranids page but later be replaced by a short piece on guants and a link to an indepth Gaunts page.

I do think however that collecting the info on a single page to begin with will make things simpler and help prevent duplication.

What do you guys think?

Cheers

[Aun O Vader]

That sounds good to me Adders, I was planning on doing something of that sort with the tau page, so creating all the background information on the different septs and everything else, then creating sub pages where everything was clarified as the wiki evolved. So what are the chance GW will ever give us any credit for it, or will we simply get slapped down again for trying to help the hobby evolve.

Maybe we should write to JJ, or wait until we have a working wiki then let him know.

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:

Initially an indepth description of Guants physiology, weapons etc could start on the tyranids page but later be replaced by a short piece on guants and a link to an indepth Gaunts page.

I do think however that collecting the info on a single page to begin with will make things simpler and help prevent duplication.

What do you guys think?

Cheers

Are we sure about this, if so I\'ll reorganise the Necron page later today. The Chaos section will take a bit more work, although I do really see the advantages of this, especially for the moment.

Well the Necron section is now all in 1 page, probably easier since that section doesn\'t have anything in it (yet) save for my \'list of things I could think of that belong there\'.

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/22 12:26

[Hephesto]

I\'ve made a start on necrons as well (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Necrons#Overview)), as requested putting evrything in 1 page for now. More to come for necrons and csm in the next week or so ;)

[saustin]

Seeing as I\'m back now in a more permenant capacity (don\'t ask why I was away, let\'s just say that very longs hours and little sleep were involved) I\'d like to take on the task of creating the Ogre Kindoms page of this site, already started on physiology. ;)

[The Warsmith]

id be happy to do dark elves, orcs and goblins, bretonnia or dwarfs. As long as someone gives me the lowdown, ill get codex flicking. eg:

what section orders and what is involved in each section etc

OS what about pictures too? Can those be added in like in normal wikipedia or no?

Post edited by: The Warsmith, at: 2007/07/22 19:36

[Hephesto]

saustin wrote:

Seeing as I\'m back now in a more permenant capacity (don\'t ask why I was away, let\'s just say that very longs hours and little sleep were involved) I\'d like to take on the task of creating the Ogre Kindoms page of this site, already started on physiology. ;)

Welcome back mate and best of luck on the Ogre Kingdoms!



The Warsmith wrote:

id be happy to do dark elves, orcs and goblins, bretonnia or dwarfs. As long as someone gives me the lowdown, ill get codex flicking. eg:

what section orders and what is involved in each section etc

Goody....more people getting involved. well it is pretty much down to you what kind of layout etc...you want to do.

Kinda agree with Adders though that for now it is probably best to keep all thing in a single page, we can always add sublevels later (see link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Space_Marines) with me getting a bit carried away with sublevels and stuff)

So pretty much something like this (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Wood_Elves) or this (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Necrons)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/22 19:42

[adders]

Hey Heph
I hope this new way of working isn\'t putting you out too much.

I just think that it may be an advantage in the first week or two so we can work together on the same pages without duplication and other problems.

We\'ll decide on a more sophisticated structure once we have a lot of the content in place.

Cheers

[The Warsmith]

ok well ill do dwarfs for you lot since there dont appear to be anyone taking on the beardies. Their history may be very long (about oooo 10 subchapters). I may even add a partial guide to Klinkarhun.

PS someone should really make the help page.....

Post edited by: The Warsmith, at: 2007/07/22 19:51

[Hephesto]

No problem Adders, everybody working on the same structure is better anyway.

Just one thing should I keep the csm as it is now, or put it all in 1 page. Have an hour later tonight, so that shouldn\'t take to much time if necessary ;)

[adders]

Actually Heph loking at what you have done for CSM, I would leave it as is.

You\'ve got a lot of info - like on Kharn on Chaos Fleets.

I would leave this on seperate pages, otherwise this page will be massive.

However it\'ll be good to get a standrad core of info about history, troop types, organisation etc on the one page.

I especially think the notable Characters can go on a separate page, and depending on the army vehicles and weapons may want to go elsewhere too (especially if we already have a weapons article for the race in question).

I hope this doesn\'t muddy the waters too much.

Cheers

[adders]

Hephesto wrote:

No problem Adders, everybody working on the same structure is better anyway.

Just one thing should I keep the csm as it is now, or put it all in 1 page. Have an hour later tonight, so that shouldn\'t take to much time if necessary ;)

Looking at the level of detail, keep it as is, that page will be 5 miles long otherwise.

Cheers

[The Warsmith]

right got two white dwarfs and teh army book next to me, better get writing

one problem, do i just begin writing on the blank page or what? contents box?

Post edited by: The Warsmith, at: 2007/07/22 19:59

[Brannick]

The Warsmith wrote:

right got two white dwarfs and teh army book next to me, better get writing

one problem, do i just begin writing on the blank page or what? contents box?<br /><br />Post edited by: The Warsmith, at: 2007/07/22 19:59

It really depends upon what section you will be adding to.

If, for example, you were going to add some text for \'Ahriman of The Thousand Sons\' then you just click his link and add the text.

However...

If you are starting in a section that has no current text then you may need to incorporate some of the code: -

== X == or
=== X === or
[[X]]

Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/22 20:06

[The Warsmith]

thanks to that and checking out the csm section, ive got the picture

@heph just wondering, shouldnt the appearance sub heading in the csm be above the appearance part of your text and not the organization part?

[The Warsmith]

How do you make a contents box with all the linky action?

[adders]

Hey there Warsmith

It get automativally generated by the heading you use.

If you have any problems just add your content, let us know the page and someone will take a look.

Cheers

[The Warsmith]

well ive done the dwarfs introduction and well, no box as of yet

[Hephesto]

The Warsmith wrote:

thanks to that and checking out the csm section, ive got the picture

@heph just wondering, shouldnt the appearance sub heading in the csm be above the appearance part of your text and not the organization part?

Good point, I still need check that part....and do the hundred other subsection. Thanks for pointing it out!

[Brannick]

The Warsmith wrote:

well ive done the dwarfs introduction and well, no box as of yet

I think Adders will need to set up a \'contents\' box for you Warsmith.

[EDIT]

Looking at this again, I believe that once you add more sections to the Dwarves the \'contents\' will then appear.

Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/23 19:44

[Hephesto]

Well that takes care of the Necron harvest fleets and some of their more unsual/rare vehicles (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Necrons))

On to the next thing :P....still \'work\' enough!

[Hephesto]

Brannick wrote:

The Warsmith wrote:

well ive done the dwarfs introduction and well, no box as of yet

I think Adders will need to set up a \'contents\' box for you Warsmith.

[EDIT]

Looking at this again, I believe that once you add more sections to the Dwarves the \'contents\' will then appear.<br /><br />Post edited by: Brannick, at: 2007/07/23 19:44

The system is...well a bit weird from time to time, I\'ll have a look if I can get it to work ;)

[Hephesto]

Fixed, took a bit of trail and error....and after some frustrating moment and server problems I just took the easy way and copy/pasted the WE layout, changed the chapter names and inserted the Dwarfs text.

No idea why it didn\'t work at first, but at least it does now ;) Of course feel free to change any of the chapter or names, just needed some quick stuff to get it to work.

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/23 20:21

[The Warsmith]

cheers Heph, ill get to work now

[Gaius Julius]

Hey, haven\'t really taken an interest in this so far, but now Im sort of back a little, so would it be alright if I took the Dark Eldar stuff?

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

Go for it GJ, what kind of general layout were you planning. If you want I\'ll put something together in a few minutes ;) It picks up quick easy if you have an example to start from.

Gotta justify Adders\' giving me some responsability on this one.

[Gaius Julius]

Yeah that\'d be great heph, i honestly havent been looking at all this, but I see you\'re all eager so I wanted to get in on it.

I havent planned anything yet, what\'s everyone else done?

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

Give me 5-10 and I\'ll put together a basic template, feel free to change stuff if you want.

[Hephesto]

Alright put this (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Dark_Eldar) together to get you started. Working on a single level is probably the simplest for now, but should you want create sublevels just use the [[title]] command to create something like this (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_Natural_Histor y).

Hope this helps and have fun writing!

EDIT: Just put some basic stuff in it, including all famous characters (I think) and all names of their specific space ships and its technologies ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/24 21:02

[Gaius Julius]

Wow thanks heph that\'s really great! Kinda like a fill in the blanks game, but with very big blanks:p

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

Gaius Julius wrote:

Wow thanks heph that\'s really great! Kinda like a fill in the blanks game, but with very big blanks:p

cheers

GJ

My pleasure, still a whole lott of stuff missing but this should get you started and keep you busy for quite a while.

I\'m working on amageddon wars, necrons, csm, we and various smaller races and I\'m pretty sure those will keep me busy for the say month or 2:P

[Gaius Julius]

Yeah well, once I\'ve done this, I may as well do some other stuff too.

Have still got a while since I go to college, so...

:P

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

Gaius Julius wrote:

Yeah well, once I\'ve done this, I may as well do some other stuff too.

Have still got a while since I go to college, so...

:P

cheers

GJ

Same here and coming year is more or less a sabbatical year for me. Two courses, a thesis and research/course assistantship...thats it pretty much :S:P

So college congrats, what will you be studying.

[Gaius Julius]

I shall be studying English Language, Government and politics, history, and philosophy.

So yeah, fun all round basically...

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

Well the Q\'Orl are up, the Kroot have had a decent boost (hoping to finish them over the next few days) and the Dark Eldar have a few things added (No\'Akei and starship based stuff). Hope you\'re ok with the DE stuff so far GJ, I\'ll leave the rest up to you ;)

Seriously tempted to buy some DE ship after reading their stuff again :P

Oh for anyone wanting to check it out;

Q\'Orl Swarnhood (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Q%27Orl_Swarmhood)

Kroot, with thanks to Adders (I think) for starting them up (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Kroot)

Dark Eldar template and early start (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Dark_Eldar)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/25 02:46

[adders]

Yep - the Kroot was me.

Nice work Heph.

[Gaius Julius]

Ok, I\'ve gotten started on the Dark Eldar page, but have yet to finish the rise of commorragh section, which I\'ll have to do later on tonight, as now I have to go out.

cheers

GJ

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:

Yep - the Kroot was me.

Nice work Heph.

Thanks! I\'ll probably get a few more things done today, hopefully so some more Kroot, Demuirg, Hrud, Umbra and Thyrrus will go up in the next 2-3 days ;)


Gaius Julius wrote:

Ok, I\'ve gotten started on the Dark Eldar page, but have yet to finish the rise of commorragh section, which I\'ll have to do later on tonight, as now I have to go out.

cheers

GJ

Great start there GJ, and there\'s no hurry so take your time.

[adders]

Cool - Nice on guys

[DarthXander]

Have made a start on the Vampire Counts. Done a little intro and the Von Carsteins. I am doing it from the perspective of someone in the Old World rather than us in a similar fashion to wookiepedia (yes I know Star Wars is real but some people wont accept it) where things are described as if the real world.

If someone could please proof read!

[adders]

Hey there Xander - I\'ve spell checked it for you.

Don\'t have time to fully proof - got to get some work done.

Cheers

[DarthXander]

Fortunately I only work 0600 - 0800...

[Hephesto]

Looking good, I\'ll give it a thorough read through in 5. For some more excellent info on the origins of vampires, the various bloodlines and Nagash\'s role also check out that vampire book from the black library. Great read and great artwork, written from the perspective of Manfred von Carstein himself.

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/25 18:21

[Hephesto]

Good read, took care of 4-5 minor typing mistakes. Keep up the good work mate !

[Hephesto]

And that makes a more or less finished Kroot section (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Kroot). Still needs a good proof read and possibly some minor things I\'ve forgotten, though I think I\'ve gotten most of it. Stayed away from the moleculair analysis from Xenology, bit to extreme detailling ;)

Had hoped to do more, but the whole Tour the France going pear shaped really put a bummer on my night. How frigging annoying how a few idiots can turn a unique and fun event into such a......staying in Kroot terminalogy.....stinky thick puddle of sweat :P

Now to put together my first Tale of X Gamers article, I\'d better first finish converting my trees though. Think I should be able to do a few other small loose ends for warhammerwiki during the rest of the week.

Well thanks to everybody that has been pitching in for the warhammerwiki project. Something tells me this thing is going to cost me more then just freetime, I\'m itching to get my hands on some Dark Eldar BFG ships already. I\'m not even starting about my long treasured dream of building a Kroot Mercernay army and use them to fight the 2nd Catachan company under command of colonel Iron Hand Straken on a fully converted jungle table while using the junlge fighting rules.....sweet, sweet, yet naieve dreams.


So keep up the good work and cheers!


-Hephesto-

[adders]

Nice one Heph.

I\'d just like to repeat what Heph has just said, thanks everyone for the work you\'ve put in thus far things are moving along nicely.

I thought I\'d just illustrate how I see things interlinking.

I\'ve just added 3 tanks to Warhammer 40,000: Technology.

These are then linked to from the Imperial Guard army page.

And each tank page links to the page for the forge world that produces it.

So had to add kinda holding pages for these.

We can take this even further once we have more pages up.

What do you guys think?

Cheers

[adders]

Hephesto wrote:

And that makes a more or less finished Kroot section (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Kroot). Still needs a good proof read and possibly some minor things I\'ve forgotten, though I think I\'ve gotten most of it. Stayed away from the moleculair analysis from Xenology, bit to extreme detailling ;)

Hey there Heph

I\'ve had a good old read and I have some structural suggestions (Don\'t want to make the edits myself as it\'s your work).

Anyway here\'re my suggestions:

We could make it shorter by not dedicating as much space to the alien weapons or equipment. We could just write them into a sentance or something and link to relevant entry for the race that uses them.

e.g. \"Kroot obtain a lot of equipment in the form of payment for their mercenary services or from plunder. Know examples are Auspex, Shuriken......etc\"

Also We could put the \"Signature Evolutionairy Adaptations\" into Physiology.

What do you think?

Cheers

[DarthXander]

Hephesto wrote:

Looking good, I\'ll give it a thorough read through in 5. For some more excellent info on the origins of vampires, the various bloodlines and Nagash\'s role also check out that vampire book from the black library. Great read and great artwork, written from the perspective of Manfred von Carstein himself.<br /><br />Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/25 18:21

Yeah I have that in the special edition with the ancient looking paper! Cracking read!

[Gaius Julius]

Ok, just did my profile page, and will continue work on Dark Eldar this eve(I hope..)

cheers

GJ

[Ziggy Tempest]

this is a personal request which would really help me out.
could someone do articles about the different states in the empire?

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:


Hey there Heph

I\'ve had a good old read and I have some structural suggestions (Don\'t want to make the edits myself as it\'s your work).

Anyway here\'re my suggestions:

We could make it shorter by not dedicating as much space to the alien weapons or equipment. We could just write them into a sentance or something and link to relevant entry for the race that uses them.

e.g. \"Kroot obtain a lot of equipment in the form of payment for their mercenary services or from plunder. Know examples are Auspex, Shuriken......etc\"

Also We could put the \"Signature Evolutionairy Adaptations\" into Physiology.

What do you think?

Cheers

Totally agree, figured it was getting to long anyway. I\'ll make some changes later today linking the weapons in groups to their weapon\'s technology pages. Leaving only the Kroot unique weapons and stuff.

Better to much info than to little ;) Hopefully I\'ll get another few small things done later today.

[adders]

Glad you agree there Heph.

CT - if no one else does them then I\'ll do the articles myself - you may have to wait a while though.

Cheers

[Ziggy Tempest]

thanks

[Hephesto]

But rusty on my history of the empire, but I was planning on going through my stack of wd\'s. And if I remember correctly there war an article about the provines of the empire a while back. And mordheim also has quite a bit of info several provinces, their leaders and warriors. So I\'ll check around, will be able while till I get around to it.

WHile I\'m at it I\'ll make a brief index of what kinds of useful stuff can be found for the various races and armies in the WD\'s I have ;)

[Hephesto]

Kroots have been updated with the removal of all the unneccesary weapons info. Added links to the Orks, Tau Empire and the weapons and technology page. Sille me forgot to ask what you guys think of the Kroot now, still a bit lengthy but a bit better (link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Kroot#.27.27.27Kroot_Forces.27.27. 27))

Now what to do next, thinking Demuirg, H\'Rud and Thyrrus, so much cool stuff so few hours in a day ;)

On and other positive note I happend to bump into a longlost buddy today who will be moving into my neighbourhood (well hour and a half way instead of other side of the worlds) so today was a good day. Not in the least because he used to be in GW stuff a lott and has loads of old stuff still around. He\'s going to look if he still has his cd filled with pdf of all the stuff from the first two 40K editions. :P

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/26 17:28

[Hephesto]

This server problem thing is really annoying, but heck it won\'t stop me from working on warhammerwiki. The Demiurg (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Demiurg) are up. Still need to check some of my really old stuff, since I remember that old books having a few tiny bits of info on them as well.

[Kiefer13]

Need anyone to help work on either the Imperial Guard or the Orcs and Goblins? I\'d be happy to help. :)

[Hephesto]

Kiefer13 wrote:

Need anyone to help work on either the Imperial Guard or the Orcs and Goblins? I\'d be happy to help. :)

Of course, we wouldn\'t want to work on this without one of the people who started out one the large astro/fluff/background projects.

Looks like Colonel Tempest has made a start on Orcs & Goblins, so you could either work with him or have the who Imperial Guard to yourself...which is a task of collossal, yet fun proportions ;)

If you need any help or info, just drop me a line and I\'ll come running....well running is perhaps a bit to strong a word ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/26 19:53

[Ziggy Tempest]

i haven\'t done the orcs and goblins.
i just formatted the page to make it look nicer.
i don\'t know who did the text though.

[Hephesto]

Hold on I\'ll check who added that stuff.

Found it Mycosynth did the text so far ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/07/26 20:13

[Hephesto]

And that takes care of the Thyrrus ;)

[Ausir]

I wish you good luck with your wiki, although isn\'t it pretty much redundant with other Warhammer wikis around?

E.g.:
http://warhammer.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:WFB

and

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ?

Honestly, I think it\'d be better if more people worked on one Warhammer wiki to create the ultimate source of knowledge about Warhammer worlds and games instead of working on dozens wikis with duplicate information (especially that both Wikia and your wiki are licensed under GNU FDL, so the infomation can be freely copied between both).

[Hephesto]

Well that it is more oe less our ambition to turn this into a massive information source, combining all possible gw stuff into a single online source. Yes I know, probably a bit to ambitious, especially since there are already a bunch of similiar projects out there.

But then again if we can keep up this pace and level of detail this should really turn into something special. Some of the things we have so far have much more depth and detail than a lott of those other wiki\'s (no offense intended to the people that are no doubt working hard on those).

Ah well, all I can say it that I\'m having a blast with this stuff. Luckely I love all this fluff, as this is starting to take its toll costing me several hours a day the last week or so. No rest for the wicked ;)

[Ausir]

Yeah, it\'s ambitious, which is why I think it would be great if all Warhammer wiki projects merged into one, massive source of Warhammer info, run not only by people interested mainly in WFB and WH40K, but co-created also by players of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (the one I\'m interested in most myself), Mordheim, Warhammer Online, Mark of Chaos, Dawn of War etc, as while gameplay stats might be different in all of those games, the background lore is still the same.

As for offense, none taken and none intended from my part. I understand why you want to make a wiki of your own, even though I\'d prefer the wikis to unite :).

Post edited by: Ausir, at: 2007/07/27 03:05

[Indra]

I think that you\'re right in a lot of ways there mate, but I also think that looking at the Wiki\'s as they crop up elsewhere I still think that here as ours is developing that the level of info present is going to unlike that of any other wiki relating to 40k/fantasy/other.

I myself am a big RPG fan (I owned the original RPG for warhammer many moons ago) and think that given time we\'ll see this one develop into a high level resource. With a bit of luck the other wiki authors will come over and contribute to this wiki as well, assuming thier passion for the fluff is as great as ours and they want to share it as mch as we do. We will also add things to the wiki that others may not have, and thats events that transpire as our own campaigns unfold, further enriching the history on top of established fluff, hence the welcome we extend to RPG writers as they have the inevitable task of providing the most detailes stuff from the RPG element.

:)

Cheers,

Indra

[adders]

Hey Guys

I got a PM from Ausir and I basically said that I was going to inform you guys but I guess you already know about it.

I said to Ausir that we\'d like to retain control so that we can control the development of the wiki.

Sure, technically, content can be copied from one site to another but, it\'s not only about content it\'s about site structure and vision etc and I think we have a great vision for our wiki.

I think we\'re going to take it to another level of detail, and once we have a decent level of content and have reviewed the structure I think the structure we\'ll have in place will be pretty special (it\'s already taking shape in my mind).

Anyway - I\'ve offered Ausir co-operation, how this would work needs to be discussed. We could possibly do with help on the Warhammer Fantasy Battle areas and we may have something to offer on the 40k front.

What do you guys think?

Cheers

[adders]

Hello Guys

Don\'t panic, I\'ve moved back to the default design for the wiki.

The dark template I was using was flawed, as pointed out by Xander (thanks xander), :Karma Boost:

I\'ll be using the default template as a template to create our bespoke template once the result of the vote is in at the end of the day.

Also as it\'s white for a while it might give you an idea if you\'d prefer black or white (light or dark).


Cheers

Post edited by: adders, at: 2007/07/27 09:25

[adders]

Hephesto wrote:

And that takes care of the Thyrrus ;)

Nice work mate

[Ziggy Tempest]

this page has an incorrect title but for some reason i can\'t change it.
could you adders?
http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Space_Marines

(i removed the redirect thingy and copied the page back into chaos space marines.
change it back if i\'ve done an oopsy

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/27 09:29

[adders]

Hey there CT - what should the title be?

[Ziggy Tempest]

the chaos space marine page redirected to a page titled marines.

i\'ve sorted it out now though so...:P

[adders]

Yep looks good to me - thanks CT.

[adders]

Looking at the wiki in white I think I prefer black.

[Hephesto]

adders wrote:

Looking at the wiki in white I think I prefer black.

Lol, me too. Looks like black is more stylish after all.


Few quick thing:

- Is the Kroot section better now?
- Can someone give the Thyrrus and Demiurg sections a quick proof read link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_Natural_Histor y)


I\'ll see if I can get through my pile of WD\'s today to make a quick overview of what useful stuff can be found for what race/army.

[Ziggy Tempest]

i fixed a few mistakes on the demiurg.

i can\'t find the page with the profile i created. and a search doens\'t turn anything up.

Post edited by: Colonel Tempest, at: 2007/07/27 10:33

[Hephesto]

Thanks for the help Colonel Tempest!

[Ziggy Tempest]

i found my profile again. now to link it

[adders]

Do you need help with linking to it CT?

If so please let me know, I\'ll send instructions, also I need to get the help section sorted.

Oh and the template and the site structure and the articles I want to write....stc, etc :laugh:

Cheers

[adders]

Hephesto wrote:



- Is the Kroot section better now?
- Can someone give the Thyrrus and Demiurg sections a quick proof read link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_40%2C000:_Natural_Histor y)


I\'ll see if I can get through my pile of WD\'s today to make a quick overview of what useful stuff can be found for what race/army.

Yep Kroot is looking good, haven\'t read every word but structure looks good.

I\'ll proof the other 2 this afternoon really busy at work at the mo.

Cheers

[Ziggy Tempest]

i\'ve linked it. well i clicked on the link to nothing and copied my prevoius profile into it.

[adders]

That\'s cool - could you delete the page that you copied from or send me a link to it and I\'ll do it, just to keep things neat.

Cheers

[Ziggy Tempest]

http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Colonel_Tempest


there you go

[adders]

Sorted.

[adders]

Heph - I\'ve proofed the Demiurg and Thrrys and have got as far as the end of Home world for the Kroot.

I\'ll finish this off tomorrow.

So far really good made a few changes to each of the articles I\'ve gone through but nothing too hectic. Moved Angkor Prok to his own article linked from the Kroot page and the Notable Characters page. Also created a Pech entry under the Galaxy page.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Good you hear my \'work\' is up to standard ;)

I\'ll get some more stuff done over the course of the weekend, maybe even a little thing somewhere tonight.

[adders]

Cool - look forward to it.

I\'m really impressed with the amount of work you\'re putting in here Heph - you\'re really making this project your own.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Ah after a week of madness I\'m back on track. Time for some more warhammerwiki :laugh:

Expect more stuff to go up over the next week or so, including Umbra, Hrud, Blood Pact, Catachan Wilflife and hopefully (time permitting) more Chaos and Necron stuff.

[Captain_Tarkus]

Just thought I would point out that in the Necron section there are quite a few spelling mistakes.( dont mean to be picky or anythin :p)

[adders]

Hey there C_T

Thanks for pointing that out.

I guess no one got round to proofing that one yet.

The beauty of a wiki is that anyone can make corrections.

Feel free to correct any errors you find, but please register first so we can see who made the changes.

Otherwise I\'ll sort it out in the next few days.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Captain_Tarkus wrote:

Just thought I would point out that in the Necron section there are quite a few spelling mistakes.( dont mean to be picky or anythin :p)

:blush: steps up to the plate and takes his responsibility....that would me and my way to fast typing. I\'ll fix it in a few minutes and get some new stuff in ;)

[adders]

Nice one Heph, the wiki is coming on nicely me thinks.

Cheers

[Hephesto]

Sweet Emperor, I really messed this one up.....the shame...the embarresment ;)

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/08/09 16:57

[The Dim Reaper]

*hangs Heph for treason in the name of spelling*

Hmmmm, maybe its about time I wrote something for the Wiki. Anything that needs urgent addressing??

Cheers,

Dim

[Hephesto]

The Dim Reaper wrote:

*hangs Heph for treason in the name of spelling*

Hmmmm, maybe its about time I wrote something for the Wiki. Anything that needs urgent addressing??

Cheers,

Dim

Yes, yes I know...something really went wrong there...:laugh:

About writing stuff, not sure if anything needs urgent attention. But WHF could use some more stuff.....bit preoccupied with chaos, necrons and wildlife right now :P

If you\'re interested in anything in particular just let us know and we\'ll fit you in!

Post edited by: Hephesto, at: 2007/08/09 20:24

[Captain_Tarkus]

Hephesto wrote:

Captain_Tarkus wrote:

Just thought I would point out that in the Necron section there are quite a few spelling mistakes.( dont mean to be picky or anythin :p)

:blush: steps up to the plate and takes his responsibility....that would me and my way to fast typing. I\'ll fix it in a few minutes and get some new stuff in ;)

*salute* we all makes mistakes ;)

[Hephesto]

True, but it was really messy. Think I must have copy/pasted a new section from an old wordfile, one that stil had major typos in it. So from now on I\'m working from a single source, me trusty USB-stick. I\'ll backup the data every few of course :lol:

[Captain_Tarkus]

Ah well I\'ll probs read over everything and inform for mistakes(if any) :p

[Kayos]

Hmmm, is there no Inquisition article on there?

I\'ll happily write it up, but I\'ll need to know how to put links into it.

ALSO, how about pages with information about members own regiments\\chapters\\craftworlds\\hivefleets\\tomb worlds\\legions\\septs\\cabals?

Post edited by: Kayos, at: 2007/08/18 23:22

[Ziggy Tempest]

just put it on ad i\'ll do the links for ya

[Kiefer13]

Right, I want to get started helping with this. I think I\'ll help with the guard, since their the army I\'ve probably got the most expertise on. Just give me a couple days to get some stuff written up, unfortunatly I\'ve got some school stuff to do first. :ohmy: ;)

[Ziggy Tempest]

Kiefer13 wrote:

Right, I want to get started helping with this. I think I\'ll help with the guard, since their the army I\'ve probably got the most expertise on. Just give me a couple days to get some stuff written up, unfortunatly I\'ve got some school stuff to do first. :ohmy: ;)

i knew i forgot something

*runs off to complete rediculously long english assay*

[Hephesto]

Kiefer13 wrote:

Right, I want to get started helping with this. I think I\'ll help with the guard, since their the army I\'ve probably got the most expertise on. Just give me a couple days to get some stuff written up, unfortunatly I\'ve got some school stuff to do first. :ohmy: ;)

Great mate, good to see you working on this one as well. If you need any help with coding or whatever, just let me know!

[Hephesto]

Kayos wrote:

Hmmm, is there no Inquisition article on there?

I\'ll happily write it up, but I\'ll need to know how to put links into it.

ALSO, how about pages with information about members own regiments\\chapters\\craftworlds\\hivefleets\\tomb worlds\\legions\\septs\\cabals?<br /><br />Post edited by: Kayos, at: 2007/08/18 23:22

The more the merrier, as you can see lott of people to help you out with whatever questions you may have. As for the members armies, could be a cool idea. We do have a section up right now with some member info (still need to do mine one of these days) link (http://www.warhammerwiki.org/index.php?title=Warhammer_Wiki:Community_Portal)