80Maxwell08
01-04-2012, 10:01 AM
Ok I would like to begin by pointing out I am making this because of a discussion I got into in this forum topic.
http://www.astronomican.com/showthread.php?23680-Lost-Primarchs
I decided not to drive that off topic anymore since I had already knocked it fully off topic. However I do think there could at least be some attempt at a concurring story for the Warhammer 40k universe. So please allow me to try my hand at a quick summary of what could possibly be a way of showing my viewpoint (also since I don't know about any of the other races from only having books and codexs about the Imperium this will solely be about them). Also this is very much a rough draft with me only having so much experience with the universe so odds are it's still going to come off very ignorant so I apologize for that. Now then to start off let's say with each codex release they have major parts of the story happen.
For the first codex the story begins with that prophecy about the Sensei or Star Children that are the children of the emperor and that they would either save or doom the Imperium. Not wanting to take that chance the Inquisition decides to hunt down every single one and kill them all. So they contract the help of everything they can from gathering the Imperial Guard to calling upon the Space Marine chapters to help them with this but keep it a secret about their true nature so instead tell them they are simply hunting very dangerous psykers. However at some point one of the Space Marine chapters who is helping them on this figures out what they have been truly hunting down and immediately confronts the Inquisition about hunting down the children of the emperor who can use the immeasurable power of the warp without being in danger of possesion by Chaos. The Inquisition tries to capture all the Space Marines of that chapter but they immediately go and split up to tell every other chapter they can about this. The codex ends with this news being spread and after no resolution between the chapters and the Inquisition civil war breaks out across the Imperium involving every faction.
For the second codex the civil war continues with sides being drawn and many of the Imperial Guard going to the Space Marines' side. The Inquisition undergoes a ton of infighting from the divisions of puritan and radical Inquisitors and they draw their own lines. The puritan Inquisition is also weakened by having no true allies since they would just exert their influence over whoever they needed. The Grey Knights choose to go to the Eye of Terror since their only reason for existing is to fight Chaos so they go to hold off the forces of Chaos there. The Grey Knights also take several chapters to help them hold off Chaos one of them being the Crimson Fists who are still weakened from their battle with the Orks. The Crimson Fists prove to be instrumental in holding Chaos off using their expertise of fortifications from being formed from the Imperial Fists Legion. They manage to hold off Chaos until the Imperium's civil war ends but the Crimson Fists have been lost to Chaos from it. The Space Marines manage to defeat the Inquisition and with the remaining Inquisitors who defected learned all about the Sensei and the prophecy. They then go to gather them up to instead learn what they can from them about this prophecy.
The third codex begins the Imperium being reformed from it's civil war and the Sensei being gathered. The Sensei help to find their brethren by using their powers to sense them out. After several hundred Sensei are gathered the Imperium tries to use them to combine their powers to find guidance and perhaps talk to the Emperor having no other options and no idea what to do. The idea was brought up by one of the first Sensei they found who said they might be able to speak to his soul in the warp with their combined power. The combined Sensei try and just barely manage to find him and while they can't make out everything he says with their powers being strained just by his presense, a few Sensei dying in the process, the Emperor's will is essentially imprinted in their minds and they all understand one thing. In order for Humanity to be saved and the threat of Chaos ended the Emperor must die and all of the Sensei must give their lives to truly end him.
The third codex continues with the search to find all of the Sensei now more fervently than ever. Also this codex shows the factions Imperium wondering about their policies on aliens. Many of the Sensei who are the Emperor's children have no problems with the other species of the universe ever after they were imprinted with the Emperor's will so the Imperium wonders if the Inquisition and even the Ecclesiarchy could be wrong. Also when the Sensei meet each other they also share the Emperor's will with all of the newly found ones as well so they all understand their purpose. Eventually they manage to find all of the Sensei who actually have enough of the Emperor's genes in them for it to matter (the ones with less genes in them from multiple generations not having the same powers of the warp and basically just being normal). With the Emperor's will in them they all unanimously agree to the plan and go to Terra to perform a ritual to kill the Emperor and send all of the Sensei with him. They succeed and all of the psykers can feel the ruinious powers of Chaos weakening and the Emperor now with his full power in the Warp beginning his battle against Chaos. However with this done there is another threat incoming.
I left this out mainly because the paragraphs are long anyway but also partly because this is somewhat removed from the events happening. The Tyranid have also had their plot development over the series but were a less central part of what was happening for those few Codexs. In the first codex a large fraction of the Ordo Xenos has been carrying out research on the Tyranids in secret from the whole Imperium even the other orders of the Inquisition. In the second codex they start to find out that the Tyranid are much larger than they ever imagined but still don't know how much more or have any idea about what they are trying to do. In the third codex they manage to find out that nearly all of the Tyranid they have been fighting so far have been scouts and that only recently have the actual warriors been starting to join them in fighting. Also while they have no concrete evidence of this they do manage to come to this conclusion from their research. They are fleeing from something and that the bulk of their forces are going to be hitting their galaxy soon.
This is like I said just a quick rough draft with many races not having that much involvement since I honestly don't know that much about any of them. I only know about some of the tyranid stuff because I saw other people talking about it. Also I don't know how this would continue after this. Maybe some of the races would align together to fight the bigger threat. Maybe mass amounts of the Chaos Legions would be "blessed" by the Emperor and join the Imperium. Maybe the Orks would all run to the tyranids and go to fight them. The point wasn't to have a whole concrete end to everything since there can't be and end to this. No one plans out a business that will only last so long. This was just a random little summary I came up with to try illustrating my point that there could possibly be an actual story going through the timeline of the universe instead of just random battles that will probably be changed around in the next codex update. Also the reason I didn't write in any major battles was because this was just supposed to be a short summary of events rather than detailing everything. I'm not saying an actual story would be like this but I honestly don't have any ideas for how major battles would happen so I didn't want that to get in the way of what I was trying to convey.
Honestly I get the feeling a lot of people are going to be think I'm just trolling here but I do actually like the Warhammer 40000 universe. I find it not to have any "plot insulation" elements so everything actually has limits and it's own sense of realism. Space Marines won't just be randomly flying and psykers won't be pulling planets into other planets. Everything has it's own rules and even the Chaos gods while not being defined in how much power they have do have an equal in the God Emperor so they can at least have that comparison point. That is something I rarely see in any universe so I do appreciate it for that above all else.
So let me hear all of your thoughts about this. Even if it's just criticism about my (most likely bad) example of how a story could exist I appreciate it. Also once again I don't mean to troll I just feel there could be a actual story with continuity going on in the universe.
http://www.astronomican.com/showthread.php?23680-Lost-Primarchs
I decided not to drive that off topic anymore since I had already knocked it fully off topic. However I do think there could at least be some attempt at a concurring story for the Warhammer 40k universe. So please allow me to try my hand at a quick summary of what could possibly be a way of showing my viewpoint (also since I don't know about any of the other races from only having books and codexs about the Imperium this will solely be about them). Also this is very much a rough draft with me only having so much experience with the universe so odds are it's still going to come off very ignorant so I apologize for that. Now then to start off let's say with each codex release they have major parts of the story happen.
For the first codex the story begins with that prophecy about the Sensei or Star Children that are the children of the emperor and that they would either save or doom the Imperium. Not wanting to take that chance the Inquisition decides to hunt down every single one and kill them all. So they contract the help of everything they can from gathering the Imperial Guard to calling upon the Space Marine chapters to help them with this but keep it a secret about their true nature so instead tell them they are simply hunting very dangerous psykers. However at some point one of the Space Marine chapters who is helping them on this figures out what they have been truly hunting down and immediately confronts the Inquisition about hunting down the children of the emperor who can use the immeasurable power of the warp without being in danger of possesion by Chaos. The Inquisition tries to capture all the Space Marines of that chapter but they immediately go and split up to tell every other chapter they can about this. The codex ends with this news being spread and after no resolution between the chapters and the Inquisition civil war breaks out across the Imperium involving every faction.
For the second codex the civil war continues with sides being drawn and many of the Imperial Guard going to the Space Marines' side. The Inquisition undergoes a ton of infighting from the divisions of puritan and radical Inquisitors and they draw their own lines. The puritan Inquisition is also weakened by having no true allies since they would just exert their influence over whoever they needed. The Grey Knights choose to go to the Eye of Terror since their only reason for existing is to fight Chaos so they go to hold off the forces of Chaos there. The Grey Knights also take several chapters to help them hold off Chaos one of them being the Crimson Fists who are still weakened from their battle with the Orks. The Crimson Fists prove to be instrumental in holding Chaos off using their expertise of fortifications from being formed from the Imperial Fists Legion. They manage to hold off Chaos until the Imperium's civil war ends but the Crimson Fists have been lost to Chaos from it. The Space Marines manage to defeat the Inquisition and with the remaining Inquisitors who defected learned all about the Sensei and the prophecy. They then go to gather them up to instead learn what they can from them about this prophecy.
The third codex begins the Imperium being reformed from it's civil war and the Sensei being gathered. The Sensei help to find their brethren by using their powers to sense them out. After several hundred Sensei are gathered the Imperium tries to use them to combine their powers to find guidance and perhaps talk to the Emperor having no other options and no idea what to do. The idea was brought up by one of the first Sensei they found who said they might be able to speak to his soul in the warp with their combined power. The combined Sensei try and just barely manage to find him and while they can't make out everything he says with their powers being strained just by his presense, a few Sensei dying in the process, the Emperor's will is essentially imprinted in their minds and they all understand one thing. In order for Humanity to be saved and the threat of Chaos ended the Emperor must die and all of the Sensei must give their lives to truly end him.
The third codex continues with the search to find all of the Sensei now more fervently than ever. Also this codex shows the factions Imperium wondering about their policies on aliens. Many of the Sensei who are the Emperor's children have no problems with the other species of the universe ever after they were imprinted with the Emperor's will so the Imperium wonders if the Inquisition and even the Ecclesiarchy could be wrong. Also when the Sensei meet each other they also share the Emperor's will with all of the newly found ones as well so they all understand their purpose. Eventually they manage to find all of the Sensei who actually have enough of the Emperor's genes in them for it to matter (the ones with less genes in them from multiple generations not having the same powers of the warp and basically just being normal). With the Emperor's will in them they all unanimously agree to the plan and go to Terra to perform a ritual to kill the Emperor and send all of the Sensei with him. They succeed and all of the psykers can feel the ruinious powers of Chaos weakening and the Emperor now with his full power in the Warp beginning his battle against Chaos. However with this done there is another threat incoming.
I left this out mainly because the paragraphs are long anyway but also partly because this is somewhat removed from the events happening. The Tyranid have also had their plot development over the series but were a less central part of what was happening for those few Codexs. In the first codex a large fraction of the Ordo Xenos has been carrying out research on the Tyranids in secret from the whole Imperium even the other orders of the Inquisition. In the second codex they start to find out that the Tyranid are much larger than they ever imagined but still don't know how much more or have any idea about what they are trying to do. In the third codex they manage to find out that nearly all of the Tyranid they have been fighting so far have been scouts and that only recently have the actual warriors been starting to join them in fighting. Also while they have no concrete evidence of this they do manage to come to this conclusion from their research. They are fleeing from something and that the bulk of their forces are going to be hitting their galaxy soon.
This is like I said just a quick rough draft with many races not having that much involvement since I honestly don't know that much about any of them. I only know about some of the tyranid stuff because I saw other people talking about it. Also I don't know how this would continue after this. Maybe some of the races would align together to fight the bigger threat. Maybe mass amounts of the Chaos Legions would be "blessed" by the Emperor and join the Imperium. Maybe the Orks would all run to the tyranids and go to fight them. The point wasn't to have a whole concrete end to everything since there can't be and end to this. No one plans out a business that will only last so long. This was just a random little summary I came up with to try illustrating my point that there could possibly be an actual story going through the timeline of the universe instead of just random battles that will probably be changed around in the next codex update. Also the reason I didn't write in any major battles was because this was just supposed to be a short summary of events rather than detailing everything. I'm not saying an actual story would be like this but I honestly don't have any ideas for how major battles would happen so I didn't want that to get in the way of what I was trying to convey.
Honestly I get the feeling a lot of people are going to be think I'm just trolling here but I do actually like the Warhammer 40000 universe. I find it not to have any "plot insulation" elements so everything actually has limits and it's own sense of realism. Space Marines won't just be randomly flying and psykers won't be pulling planets into other planets. Everything has it's own rules and even the Chaos gods while not being defined in how much power they have do have an equal in the God Emperor so they can at least have that comparison point. That is something I rarely see in any universe so I do appreciate it for that above all else.
So let me hear all of your thoughts about this. Even if it's just criticism about my (most likely bad) example of how a story could exist I appreciate it. Also once again I don't mean to troll I just feel there could be a actual story with continuity going on in the universe.