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Scolar
12-11-2006, 06:43 PM
So I thought I would give it a go. It has come out alright, patchy in the photo more than in real life. It is missing something so if anyone out there can do NMM then please let me know! :lol:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/NMM1.jpg

Solinus
12-11-2006, 06:49 PM
CHRIST :| thats amazing!! ~Youve really out done yourself there Archon keep it coming!!

Ocelot
12-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Looking good! Makes me want to paint a Grey Knight in NMM. Or try to anywho.

Crusher Of Fates
12-11-2006, 06:58 PM
What does NMM mean?

Scolar
12-11-2006, 07:06 PM
Non Metallic Metal

When people paint this well, it is painting a metal area to look like metal without using metallic paints.

Crusher Of Fates
12-11-2006, 07:12 PM
AR! That explains a lot, i was wondering why there was just a metallic foot, in fact i thought u had used metallic paints. so good work! :)

Starks333
12-11-2006, 07:46 PM
well here are some things:

light never hits dead on, so some spots you have the light hitting isnt natural and this will affect your judgement to see it as metal

the next, light always hit the same things the same way...what this means is, if light hits something rounded on a certain angle, it hits everything rounded on the same angle(example would be your shin and knee, the light is hitting them at different angles, which throws you off as light doesnt magically bend :P)

next, when shading a rounded surface if you leave \"lines\"(vertical/horizontal) you will take away from the fact its rounded as your eye will no longer view it as rounded(same when drawing)

you might consider a bit more contrast as this really brings out NMM effects

and of course smoother blending helps to mke it look nice, but you dont need it to be smooth to get the overall effect(it can be very blotchy and still give the metal effect, the effect depends solely on placement of light/shadow)


uhhh i think thats it :) hope it helps ;)

Starks

Scolar
12-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Aha I see now! I know for a fact I was painting the differnt layers on the metal in rectangles and now rounded. I\'ll give it a go with better precision.

Starks333
12-11-2006, 07:54 PM
i should also mention, your paint looks a tad thick, could be the photo

Starks

Scolar
12-11-2006, 08:03 PM
No it is the photo, my paints were a little to thin at certain points. I re-did the kneepad and shin and it looks MUCH better. I\'ll get a picture up ASAP

Starks333
12-11-2006, 08:25 PM
*no such thing as too thin unless its water :P

glad to hear it helped ;)


Starks

Scolar
12-11-2006, 08:27 PM
It has helped ten fold! Heres the picture. You are looking at the kneepad and shin, ignore the boot.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/NMM2.jpg


That is the best picture to show what it really looks like, without brightening it or darkening it too much.

Starks333
12-11-2006, 08:33 PM
ahhh ya much better big difference eh? for such a little detail hahaha

however you might want to brighten it closer to white, or darken the shadows if you want a darker metal

Starks

Ocelot
12-11-2006, 08:35 PM
nicely done

Scolar
12-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Yeah I probably will do a thin line of pure white to make it pop more.

One question though, I want to do this to the other leg but it is facing completely the wrong way and away from the light source. any ideas on how to make the other leg look good?

Starks333
12-11-2006, 08:54 PM
basicly you do the same thing, light will have to hit it at some point

the only difference would be you would have the darkness to it, so your bright spot instead od white might only be codex grey

the contrast is created by going from black to bright quickly, speeding up your blending, it can still be smooth but the blending isnt as gradual

Starks

Scolar
12-11-2006, 09:00 PM
Ah right! This NMM is hard to get your head round at first :laugh:

Ill update tomorrow when more of him is painted.

Scolar
13-11-2006, 06:43 PM
Heres the updated picture, hope you enjoy

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/NMMgangleader1-1.jpg

Starks333
13-11-2006, 06:50 PM
lookin MUCH better ;) congrats


Starks

Ocelot
13-11-2006, 07:13 PM
I thought they were real scratches at first :P

Scolar
14-11-2006, 04:58 PM
Got some progress done last night. I hope this picture isn\'t too dark. Only the shotgun, chainsword, boots, trousers and bits and bobs to go :pinch:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/NMM1-1.jpg

Crusher Of Fates
14-11-2006, 05:00 PM
WOW! thats amazing! Well done!
Cant wait to see the finished mini

Starks333
14-11-2006, 06:21 PM
***just as a suggestion before you finish, in comparison to the nmm your other colours seem to lack true depth, i had this problem myself, and the best way to fix it is this:

shade the green with blue or red(mixed with black if need be) it will bring out the depth

if you want your main colour to be the darker shade of green you have there, make sure its the most used colour, while the bright spots arent necessarily always the very edges of everything(example would be the \"box\" around his abbs, it wouldnt be a box with actyal light)

as for red try shading with purples and blues

contrast is the key because the minis are so small

lookin good ;)


Starks

Hephesto
14-11-2006, 07:15 PM
I\'m seriously impressed, great work. House Orlock if I remember correctly, can\'t wait to see it finished



Hephesto

Indra
14-11-2006, 08:07 PM
Good job there mate. I think that a step by step guide might be in order...

Scolar
14-11-2006, 08:16 PM
Hey Starks, I am having problems NMM-ing the barrels of the shotgun. I have seen in some places where the reflection is an \'-I-\' shape as opposed to a straight line. Any tips?



Thanks everyone for the positive comments :laugh:

Post edited by: Archon N, at: 2006/11/14 20:17

Scolar
14-11-2006, 10:01 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/NMM2-1.jpg

quick update. I promise I shall get daytime pictures tomorrow :P

Post edited by: Archon N, at: 2006/11/14 22:03

Ocelot
14-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Looking very good!

The crow
14-11-2006, 10:37 PM
quite nice, try adding a hourizen line in there to show where the light hits the object

Scolar
14-11-2006, 10:49 PM
I may do but that is more common on shiny metals not dull shotgun barrels and armour

Starks333
14-11-2006, 11:01 PM
i dont have the model or really know what it looks like...but you might get the effect better if you fade it...so brighter near the end of the gun(as it is raised at the end) and darker towards the grip

usually on a long cylindrical object there will be one bright spot, and then the line continues it down the object, but its not quite as bright and fades the further away it is

Starks

Scolar
15-11-2006, 01:36 PM
Here we go, just about finished. I am VERY pleased with him :laugh:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/necrontyr2000/finishedgangleadercollage.jpg


Any comments?

kharn the betrayer
15-11-2006, 01:38 PM
Very cool I like the fact he looks a bit like Hulk Hogan, with the moustache thing going on. I am soo pleased argghhhh

******kharma Boost********:pinch:

Doh have to wait 6 hours oh well kharma boost in 6 hours.

Post edited by: kharn the betrayer, at: 2006/11/15 13:40

Scolar
15-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Glad you liked it :laugh: thanks for the Karma as well, have you raised it yet? I can\'t tell

I shall upload it to the gallery soon
:P

Starks333
15-11-2006, 03:39 PM
lookin good, im going to post some stuff i learned in Montreal, might help you improve further

Starks

Scolar
15-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Cool thanks. Just out of interest, what rating would you give it out of 10? :P

kharn the betrayer
15-11-2006, 03:42 PM
No kharma raise yet I have to wait for six hours trust me it will be done.

:pinch:

Starks333
15-11-2006, 03:49 PM
right now itd be about a 7.0-7.5 ish from me, maybe even a bit higher(7.8?) once i see him on the base and completed

i cant tell what colour the pants are, the green vest could use a bit more contrast, and the grenades are a bit sloppy, also not a fan of the red and green scheme, i think it makes him look too happy and steals away from the nmm and darker tones


Starks

adders
15-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Dude that mini rocks.

8 outa 10!

Cheers

Scolar
15-11-2006, 04:18 PM
The picture really takes away the quality of the grenades and black trousers/sleeves. In real life they have a slight purple tinge to them.

The red headband is there to signify him as an Orlock gang leader

Hephesto
15-11-2006, 08:50 PM
Well I think you did really great work there Archon! Inspiring stuff, and talking about inspiring stuff time for some \'Karma\'

Are you planning a complete orlock gang?

Hephesto

Scolar
15-11-2006, 09:00 PM
Thanks Hephesto :)

I have about 4 unpainted orlocks that I shall probably give a go . This gang leader was fun to paint and a host of them will hopefully improve my painting skills even more.

Necromunda gangs are a nice change from the galactic battles raging in the galaxy. What is more important then getting your heavy gunner a boltgun to really take on those rivals :laugh:

kharn the betrayer
16-11-2006, 08:10 AM
As promised

*********Kharma Boost********

:woohoo:

Scolar
16-11-2006, 11:14 AM
I thank you for your kindness :lol: