View Full Version : Compare with and without shading

28-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Heres the initial pic you\'ve all seen without shading:


And here\'s one with flesh wash carefully painted into all the recesses on the yellow armour. It was a lot easier than I imagined and I think that lining is a really easy way to effectively shade. So compare this:


What do you think?

28-08-2006, 02:24 PM
Do you think you could take another pic of the Space Marines with the paper background? The glare is making it difficult to pick out the shading.



28-08-2006, 02:48 PM
The shading makes it look more battle worn but also I like it as it maks it apear as if there is some thing underneath the armour onto which the armour plates are attached - though the painting on both is stunning....

28-08-2006, 09:30 PM
now he looks a lot meaner, nice job *karma boost*

28-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Looks sharp. I try to do the same thing using black on my Gray marines. Picking out all the seams in the armor really helps the look.


28-08-2006, 10:13 PM
Note to self: Martyr an imperial fist.

Nice work indra, though you have to much karma so....
i may bump it later.


Captain Toenail
28-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Yeah, looks better. I don\'t bother with shading, I just paint the basic colours. Not enough patience...

29-08-2006, 04:39 AM
ive started thinking about shadeing on my WIP chapter, what do you reackon would be a good ink wash for shadow grey ?

29-08-2006, 04:40 AM
I\'d just go with black... Like I do with Codex Gray as my base color.

29-08-2006, 04:41 AM
ill have a try with that thanks

29-08-2006, 04:44 AM
Get armour wash. Its thinner than black ink and will dry a dark grey rather than black.

And I was rushing with the comparison pic, but when the sun rises again I shall endeavour to edit the original post...

And as for patience, It only took about 5 minutes to do the whole model. When I said it was easier than I expected I meant in terms of actual painting difficuly and time. A fine brush and good light and it was a 5 minute job. I did the landspeeder in about 10 minutes.

Try it out on a spare marine guys, you\'ll see how easy it is. One tip though- dont overload the brush with ink, it will flood the mini. Not good.

29-08-2006, 04:49 AM
armour wash ? ive heard of it but never seen it on sale though

29-08-2006, 04:50 AM
he means ink, i use browns for alot of stuff.


29-08-2006, 04:56 AM
yea i know he means ink but ive never seen \'armour wash\' ink before

29-08-2006, 04:57 AM
funnily enough neither have I, are they stocked still?

29-08-2006, 04:57 AM
No, I do not mean ink young helito...

A wash is a thinned out ink, where you add water to an ink to thin the pigment out, it basically dries semi-translucent, so you get it in the crevices, but it dries see through on raised areas.

There. Black ink, with water added. A ratio of about 1:2 Water:Ink, or 1:1 depending on the depth of pigment.

Apologies for the lack of clarity... but to say ink leads you to use a neat ink which would be too strong.

Post edited by: IndraFurya, at: 2006/08/29 05:59

29-08-2006, 04:59 AM
IndraFurya wrote:

A wash is a thinned out ink,

is that still not an ink?


29-08-2006, 05:00 AM
I edited my reply... I was being vague again...

29-08-2006, 05:01 AM
do you not water down inks anyway? Or do you say a wash is a very watered down ink?

29-08-2006, 05:03 AM
up to you, i use inks direct for what i do, but depends on what effect you want.


29-08-2006, 05:14 AM
I tend not to water inks down, I actually use them to thin paint to keep pigment strong. But yes, a wash is a watery ink, where as I said the colour shades a recess and dries clearer on a raised area. Its a good way to blend in colours, so if you do a lot of red blending, use brown ink to thin the paints, moving up to red inl for the final colours and then WASH the whole thing down with brown WASH and it will dry with a faint sheen of colour blending it smoothly.

31-08-2006, 05:13 AM
*karma boost* i tried a blue ink wash on a ultra marine im painting for a comp (ill probs post a wip piccy) and it turned out great thanks indra ;)