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Indra
28-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Heres the initial pic you\'ve all seen without shading:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/RonJonesLP/Imperial%20Fists/Marine1Completed001.jpg

And here\'s one with flesh wash carefully painted into all the recesses on the yellow armour. It was a lot easier than I imagined and I think that lining is a really easy way to effectively shade. So compare this:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/RonJonesLP/Imperial%20Fists/Fleshwashlinedmarine1.jpg

What do you think?

Drackonis
28-08-2006, 02:24 PM
Do you think you could take another pic of the Space Marines with the paper background? The glare is making it difficult to pick out the shading.

Thanks,

Drackonis

DarthXander
28-08-2006, 02:48 PM
The shading makes it look more battle worn but also I like it as it maks it apear as if there is some thing underneath the armour onto which the armour plates are attached - though the painting on both is stunning....

mark
28-08-2006, 09:30 PM
now he looks a lot meaner, nice job *karma boost*

DavicusPrime
28-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Looks sharp. I try to do the same thing using black on my Gray marines. Picking out all the seams in the armor really helps the look.

-DavicusPrime

Skrall
28-08-2006, 10:13 PM
Note to self: Martyr an imperial fist.

Nice work indra, though you have to much karma so....
i may bump it later.

HV

Captain Toenail
28-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Yeah, looks better. I don\'t bother with shading, I just paint the basic colours. Not enough patience...

mark
29-08-2006, 04:39 AM
ive started thinking about shadeing on my WIP chapter, what do you reackon would be a good ink wash for shadow grey ?

DavicusPrime
29-08-2006, 04:40 AM
I\'d just go with black... Like I do with Codex Gray as my base color.

mark
29-08-2006, 04:41 AM
ill have a try with that thanks

Indra
29-08-2006, 04:44 AM
Get armour wash. Its thinner than black ink and will dry a dark grey rather than black.

And I was rushing with the comparison pic, but when the sun rises again I shall endeavour to edit the original post...

And as for patience, It only took about 5 minutes to do the whole model. When I said it was easier than I expected I meant in terms of actual painting difficuly and time. A fine brush and good light and it was a 5 minute job. I did the landspeeder in about 10 minutes.

Try it out on a spare marine guys, you\'ll see how easy it is. One tip though- dont overload the brush with ink, it will flood the mini. Not good.

mark
29-08-2006, 04:49 AM
armour wash ? ive heard of it but never seen it on sale though

Skrall
29-08-2006, 04:50 AM
he means ink, i use browns for alot of stuff.

HV

mark
29-08-2006, 04:56 AM
yea i know he means ink but ive never seen \'armour wash\' ink before

Scolar
29-08-2006, 04:57 AM
funnily enough neither have I, are they stocked still?

Indra
29-08-2006, 04:57 AM
No, I do not mean ink young helito...

A wash is a thinned out ink, where you add water to an ink to thin the pigment out, it basically dries semi-translucent, so you get it in the crevices, but it dries see through on raised areas.

There. Black ink, with water added. A ratio of about 1:2 Water:Ink, or 1:1 depending on the depth of pigment.

Apologies for the lack of clarity... but to say ink leads you to use a neat ink which would be too strong.

Post edited by: IndraFurya, at: 2006/08/29 05:59

Skrall
29-08-2006, 04:59 AM
IndraFurya wrote:


A wash is a thinned out ink,

is that still not an ink?

HV

Indra
29-08-2006, 05:00 AM
I edited my reply... I was being vague again...

Scolar
29-08-2006, 05:01 AM
do you not water down inks anyway? Or do you say a wash is a very watered down ink?

Skrall
29-08-2006, 05:03 AM
up to you, i use inks direct for what i do, but depends on what effect you want.

HV

Indra
29-08-2006, 05:14 AM
I tend not to water inks down, I actually use them to thin paint to keep pigment strong. But yes, a wash is a watery ink, where as I said the colour shades a recess and dries clearer on a raised area. Its a good way to blend in colours, so if you do a lot of red blending, use brown ink to thin the paints, moving up to red inl for the final colours and then WASH the whole thing down with brown WASH and it will dry with a faint sheen of colour blending it smoothly.

mark
31-08-2006, 05:13 AM
*karma boost* i tried a blue ink wash on a ultra marine im painting for a comp (ill probs post a wip piccy) and it turned out great thanks indra ;)