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KaizerVonAwesome
22-09-2009, 09:58 AM
So I saw a box of Chaos Knights and decided to paint em just for the heck of it.

I'm doing a halved Malal scheme because anyone who tortures demons right back is alright in my book. If you don't know who Malal is basically once upon a time GW had a Chaos God dedicated to killing the other Chaos Gods. However he was no match for copyrights and properties and all that stuff so GW had to pull the plug on him when the creators and GW had a falling out. He lives on in paint schemes, word of mouth, the odd indirect reference here and there. Only those with the largest amount of useless knowledge would spot any of it (raises hand).

So two questions... or three...

One of the shields has all kinds of faces coming out of it, the typical "swirly faces popping out of our equipment" chaos thing. I'm going to make the "skin" parts of the faces grey and the eyes and mouths will be purple. However I wish to make it appear as if they are exuding purplish light. I have never worked with purple and need a good base, shade, and highlight.

I also need to know how people achieve that glowing look to things, most often seen on plasma guns, where the light spills onto other surfaces of the object realistically.

And I had an idea for highlighting my blacks with green. Basically you mix Dark Angels Green with black for a first highlight, and than do a second highlight in selective areas with straight Dark Angels green. I figured that would be something different as opposed to the more standard gray or silver highlight most people (including me) do. Yay or nay? I think it might just work.

I wish I could say I'd post pics but that's not going to happen any time soon. No access to a camera. (You didn't think I've done nothing all this time did you? Please.)

Ossai
22-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Well, simplist way to achieve a shade, base, and highlight for purple is to add black, or white, to Liche Purple. This should give you everything you need. Unfortunately GW only do one "proper" purple and I have not dabbled with any other companies colours.

As for green highlighting I suggest you take a look at Consadine's WIP.

Finally, here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10440) is a tutorial on OSL (The Glowey Effect)

Consadine
22-09-2009, 01:55 PM
The method of green highlighting you described is how I do the basecoat for my very dark Dark Angels :p DA Green + Black is a very dark color, so I recommend slightly watered DA Green. You'll need several layers. The tutorial for how I do green is here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188034&postcount=30), while a better picture of the final results is here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188523&postcount=44).

Best of luck in your endeavors :D

Edit: My advice for OSL is to use it sparingly. Going over the top with the effects, especially when starting out with them, can give you horrifying results. Just a word of caution...

Captain Castus
22-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Well, simplist way to achieve a shade, base, and highlight for purple is to add black, or white, to Liche Purple.

Although if you want a 'rich' purple rather than a pastel-ish one I'd add pink instead...

To get glowing effects you basically have to just do some fairly extreme highlighting in hte right places...

Regarding the black/green... How about a heavy black wash over DA green instead? Could give a similar but simpler and perhaps more effective result...

CC

Arkaedin
22-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Purple?! I can help with with purple! :D

I do Liche Purple over a Black basecoat with a secondary highlight of 2:1 Liche Purple to Fortress Grey and then a final highlight of about 1:1 Liche Purple to Skull White. You may need to play round with the ratios as I just mixed a batch together in a spare pot so I haven't actually mixed my purples in about 3 months. If you want to add more purple shadows (make it darker) mix 3:1 Liche Purple to Dark Angels green. It's what I did for the shadows on Khan (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=224539&postcount=1) and Thor (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=222444&postcount=1)

Captain Castus
22-09-2009, 05:35 PM
The pink highlight option looks like this for comparison...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/davidcutter/Fantasy%20Chaos/SkajdulfbackWIP.jpg

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Inquisitor Alex
22-09-2009, 08:25 PM
I use a really simple trick for luminous stuff - paint the bit you want to glow white, then use a small amount of thinned down paint (for purple, I'd say use a "medium" purple, the more vivid in hue the better) but not thin enough to be a wash. The result is similar to a wash but the color stains the white, so you get a variation in tone. If it's not eye-catching enough, try a small spot of white somewhere in the top half of the surface. The effect is similar to the glowy blue in the "Iron Duke"s plasma cells in this pic.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m216/Allykz666/Ausmanian%20Imperial%20Guard/IronDuke1.jpg

KaizerVonAwesome
23-09-2009, 07:32 PM
The pink highlight option looks like this for comparison...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/davidcutter/Fantasy%20Chaos/SkajdulfbackWIP.jpg

CC

That is more or less the purple I'm going for.


Although if you want a 'rich' purple rather than a pastel-ish one I'd add pink instead...

To get glowing effects you basically have to just do some fairly extreme highlighting in hte right places...

Regarding the black/green... How about a heavy black wash over DA green instead? Could give a similar but simpler and perhaps more effective result...

CC

Black wash over it sounds like a better idea. I'll give that a shot. I'll have the green figured out soon. But yeah I will also end up highlighting the purple with some kind of pink/purple mix.


Well, simplist way to achieve a shade, base, and highlight for purple is to add black, or white, to Liche Purple. This should give you everything you need. Unfortunately GW only do one "proper" purple and I have not dabbled with any other companies colours.

As for green highlighting I suggest you take a look at Consadine's WIP.

Finally, here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10440) is a tutorial on OSL (The Glowey Effect)

Thanks dude!


The method of green highlighting you described is how I do the basecoat for my very dark Dark Angels :p DA Green + Black is a very dark color, so I recommend slightly watered DA Green. You'll need several layers. The tutorial for how I do green is here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188034&postcount=30), while a better picture of the final results is here (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188523&postcount=44).

Best of luck in your endeavors :D

Edit: My advice for OSL is to use it sparingly. Going over the top with the effects, especially when starting out with them, can give you horrifying results. Just a word of caution...

Advice noted. No worries, if it looks bad I'll throw black on it and try again. And if that sucks too I'll go strip it and start over.

TIME TO HEAD TO THE TEST MODEL! Poor aspiring champion looks like he got hit with a paint machine gun.

Thanks everybody. I have a feeling I'll be back...

KaizerVonAwesome
23-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Go to paint and can't find the liche purple. Then the light bulb above my painting area burns out and I don't have anymore. So I go to work out and the exercise bike's batteries are also dead.

I'm going to go bang my head against the wall, excuse me.