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Lascannon O_O!
20-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Am I the only person here that didn't know that the full rules for Inquisitor are on GW's site?
And how exactly are the battles played and how big are they?
Can I just use my 40k models as characters or what?

Silver
20-05-2009, 06:14 PM
The full rules are on GW? Link please! :o

Vulpus Rex
20-05-2009, 06:17 PM
Inquisitor generally uses much bigger more detailed models but no-one's going to arrest you over it.

All the Specialist Games rules are pdf's on the site now aren't they.

darknight
20-05-2009, 06:17 PM
its just on the specialist section, if ya cant find/get them let me know i have them, battles are more one on one, its like an rpg with minis

Lascannon O_O!
20-05-2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=cat1290321&categoryId=1100009&aId=4900004

There you go silver.

Silver
20-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Thanks for tending to the lazy, mate :)

Lascannon O_O!
21-05-2009, 12:48 PM
No problem.
Inquisitor's pretty detailed isn't it?
I already have plans for a dual-revolver wielding heretic with a chainsword strapped to his back...

Kaled
21-05-2009, 04:50 PM
And how exactly are the battles played and how big are they?
Can I just use my 40k models as characters or what?I wrote the article below to answer just the sorts of questions you're asking. Have a read, then let me know if you have any more questions;
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=465

In answer to your second point though, here's a quote on the subject of Inquisitor played with 28mm models from a friend of mine - a very experienced Inquisitor player and GM, and the man who runs the Inquisitor Grand Tournament and who is working on Inquisitor 2.0.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with Inq28. It's just that the experience of many people is that it encourages new players to simply pluck-and-play from their army-du-jour. I've seen Inq28 games with daemon warbands, tyranid warbands (WTF?) and, of course, the inevitable space marine squad. Players also tend to over-populate their tabletops with warbands of five or more characters and hordes of NPCs (usually zombies) which leads to games that move with the pace of a Norwegian glacier. This, in turn, leads to new players dismissing the game as "broken", "slow" or "boring" when, in fact, they're just doing it wrong.

54mm means more unique models from less predictable backgrounds in smaller numbers, which gives a more interesting, faster game.

But, when done in the right spirit, Inq28 really is (almost) as good as 54mm.

I lead that cautionary "(almost)" in play because there is an indefinable element of play at 54mm that's just better, which is probably to do with the more personal experience that the larger scale loans to events of the tabletop.

Lascannon O_O!
21-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Okay then!
Does anybody have a clue as to what I should use to create my pistol-wielding heretic?
I have loads of chaos marines, but Ive wanted to use characters that are more "human" tbh.
Should I buy catachans or what?
I'd also like to get some mutants, but I haven't a clue where I'd start with them.
I might actually use a Dark Elf executioner from my D.E. army too...
And maybe an empire soldier too(I could say that he's gone crazy and likes to dress up in old clothes or something)
So what do I need to buy then?

Kaled
21-05-2009, 06:57 PM
More human characters are generally best - marines are extremely powerful In Inquisitor and are not suitable for most games. As for what you should buy, it depends what sorts of character you want - you say a pistol-wielding heretic, so what sort of heresy does he practice? Associating with xenos, religious heresy, tech-heresy - there are loads more options that just worshipping chaos. Is he a follower of a particular cult? Is he a cult leader? Is he a pirate only looking out for himself? You also mention mutants - does he lead a group of mutants? Is he actually a mutant himself but can pass for human? Do you mean chaotic mutants, or ones twisted by their environment - radiation for example? If you flesh out your ideas it might suggest some good modelling ideas to you.

When it comes to actually buying bits, sites like http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/ are great because you can just buy the parts for the characters you want to build.

Lascannon O_O!
21-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah Ive bought from them before, but I never even thought about that.
I'm only beggining with my warband though and Ive decided that there'll be a human cultist, two human followers and a single mutant.
Something along those lines anyway.
And how would a dual-revolver wielding bad guy fare in close combat?
EDIT:
And I was thinking of giving my leader guy a trenchcoat if I could find one.
Oh and I could get a tau fire warrior suit but put a human head on it.
I could say he stole it from a dead fire warrior.
Would a human fit in a fire warrior's suit?

Kaled
21-05-2009, 09:48 PM
And how would a dual-revolver wielding bad guy fare in close combat?Probably not well - you can only use pistols in close-combat when you're at 'arms length' and people tend to dodge most of your shots. That said, one of my models of Inquisitor Kaled (http://kaled100.atspace.com/kaled_mk2.JPG) has a couple of pistols and he does okay - he's not great at close combat, but so what? He looks cool! Anyway, Inquisitor is not about wiping out the opposition - it's about telling an interesting story, so it doesn't matter if a character isn't great at fighting. I frequently use non-combat characters such as savants, archivists and Sister Hospitallers - and often I find that they can win the game for me.


And I was thinking of giving my leader guy a trenchcoat if I could find one.Sounds easy enough - there are tons of 28mm models of guys in trenchcoats. There are also some very nice 54mm models with trenchcoats. You should think about giving 54mm a try - the models are far cooler than the 28mm ones and there's a huge range to choose from. It's also easier to convert at the larger scale - sculpting is easier, and you'll find that tons of 28mm parts work perfectly well at the larger scale. In addition, almost all of your 28mm scenery can be reused without any problems.


Oh and I could get a tau fire warrior suit but put a human head on it.
I could say he stole it from a dead fire warrior.
Would a human fit in a fire warrior's suit?A human probably wouldn't fit in a Fire Warrior suit without either modifying it or it being very ill-fitting. But why not have an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and one member of his team is infiltrating the Tau Empire as a Gue'vesa? If you took a fire warrior model and gave it human boots, gloves and head then it could look pretty cool.

Lascannon O_O!
22-05-2009, 02:17 PM
I must rep you for this advice!
I'll have to arm him with a small knife then too.
Any advice on what models I should buy then?
I was thinking of buying a catachan boxed set and anything that gives me a trenchcoat.

LAZtheinfamous
22-05-2009, 02:49 PM
Easiest trechcoats are the Empire Militia Sprue. That's how I do my IG veterans.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/laztheinfamous/Imperial%20Gaurd/ef0ca68f.jpg

Kaled
22-05-2009, 03:44 PM
I'll have to arm him with a small knife then too.Most (but not all) of my characters have a knife hidden somewhere - they're not fantastic weapons, but are always useful - even if it's just as a backup.


Any advice on what models I should buy then?Are you a GW purist? A lot of non-GW models can easily be converted to fit into the 41st millenium both at 28mm and 54mm - especially when combined with weapons bought from sites like BitzBox. The problem with a box of Catachans is that your characters will all look very similar - if I were you I'd buy individual bits from both the 40k and fantasy ranges and do half a dozen different conversions. Buying bits is more expensive than buying a box, but you only need 3-4 models for each warband so it's not too expensive.

Lascannon O_O!
22-05-2009, 04:16 PM
I guess I'll get a few more varied body parts from bitz then.
Any suggestions?
And yes, I'm a bit of a purist.
Unless GW don't make the bits that I need.

Tainted Princeps
22-05-2009, 06:01 PM
kaled what is this inquisitor 2.0? is GW re-releasing inquisitor?!?!?!

Kaled
22-05-2009, 06:28 PM
kaled what is this inquisitor 2.0? is GW re-releasing inquisitor?!?!?!Not quite, well maybe. Let me explain - one of the most well known members of the Inquisitor community, PrecinctOmega, has over the last few years organised a number of Inquisitor events, usually at WHW. Each December there is the Inquisitor Grand Tournament, and last year Gav Thorpe, Jervis Johnson & John Blanche all turned up for part of the day to chat to players etc. PrecinctOmega demoed a draft of his revamped Inquisitor rules to Gav etc, who were impressed and gave him a tentative green-light to continue developing the rules. They also said that as long as Gav was happy, and the production values of Inquisitor 2.0 were at least as good as the original then they would publish the rules through the GW website in place of the original.

The project is still in the draft stages, but hopefully there will be a new version of the rules released within a couple of years. Whether this will lead to new (or re-released) models is up to the guys at GW.

Illuminaak
22-05-2009, 09:47 PM
Guardsmen laspistols and knives with drak elven robe/body and any head. coulour scheme is important and use a knife on the robe to make it look tattered. u can use crpt ghouls, chaos orgres and things like that for mutants. and add chaos mutation to imperial gurd.

Lascannon O_O!
22-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Maybe I'll get some zombies too...

Tainted Princeps
23-05-2009, 05:07 PM
Not quite, well maybe. Let me explain - one of the most well known members of the Inquisitor community, PrecinctOmega, has over the last few years organised a number of Inquisitor events, usually at WHW. Each December there is the Inquisitor Grand Tournament, and last year Gav Thorpe, Jervis Johnson & John Blanche all turned up for part of the day to chat to players etc. PrecinctOmega demoed a draft of his revamped Inquisitor rules to Gav etc, who were impressed and gave him a tentative green-light to continue developing the rules. They also said that as long as Gav was happy, and the production values of Inquisitor 2.0 were at least as good as the original then they would publish the rules through the GW website in place of the original.

The project is still in the draft stages, but hopefully there will be a new version of the rules released within a couple of years. Whether this will lead to new (or re-released) models is up to the guys at GW.

if they do new models i hope they leave them open for customization unlike the massive, metal models of old.
like put out spurs for them

Lascannon O_O!
23-05-2009, 08:59 PM
Perhaps a robot too...
And a dog!

Kaled
23-05-2009, 09:58 PM
if they do new models i hope they leave them open for customization unlike the massive, metal models of old.You're kidding right?! There's tons of room for customisation of the existing range - check out my gallery (http://kaled100.atspace.com/index2.htm) and/or the P&M forum on The Conclave (http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=3) if you don't believe me. Most of the 54mm conversions I've seen are far more intricate than the Inq28 models people tend to use.


Perhaps a robot too...
And a dog!How about a robot-dog? Like these - 1 (http://kaled100.atspace.com/cyberdog2.JPG), 2 (http://kaled100.atspace.com/cyberdog.JPG)? What sort pf a robot were you thinking of? I have a praetorian servitor who's almost a robot (he's a head in a jar) - hopefully pics of him will appear on the 'Clave today/tomorrow (I only finished him last night, but played a few games with him today).

Lascannon O_O!
23-05-2009, 10:51 PM
I was thinking of making a model made entirely of bionics if it was possible.
I might give him a bionic piece attached to power armour, but I wouldn't count it as power armour, as I think power armour is too powerful.
The head in a jar idea is pretty good though man.
And thats one hell of an archive in your sig.
EDIT:
And I was also thinking of making an executioner style character.
He'd be wearing pants and a hood and he's have a massive axe too.
I should also get a sniper because everyone needs a sniper :)
I already have a scout sniper so I could just convert him from that.

Kaled
24-05-2009, 08:01 AM
I was thinking of making a model made entirely of bionics if it was possible.
I might give him a bionic piece attached to power armour, but I wouldn't count it as power armour, as I think power armour is too powerful.You're right, power armour is very powerful - in a game where most characters tend to have lasguns, shotguns & autoguns, a man in power armour is a walking tank. What about using Necron parts if you need bionics?

EDIT:
In case you're interested - pictures of the 'head in a jar' praetorian servitor are up on the Conclave (http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21571#21571).