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Eodred
16-01-2009, 08:01 AM
Hereís my intro, sorry itís a little bit late :o :D

The stuff I have bought so far:

Here (http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=9UJB57vvT0lrXPiqIIK1Wg%3D%3D)

Fraid youíll have to follow the link, would take several posts to put up all the pics I plan to and I want to keep it to one.

Iím doing a Black Templars army for several reasons:
1. I like the crusading element,
2. I like the style of war and the martial doctrine behind it,
3. I like the colour scheme, two of my favourite colours, red and black,
4. I like fluffy armies and their rules fit in with the background I have in mind, mainly.

Their appearance will be fluff driven, though I will try to make the force fairly effective.
I have the fluff and army structure mapped out, the only problem being the amount of time it will take to transfer it from noggin to screen.

Here are some of the pics Iím drawing inspiration from, thereíre quite a few but a lot more on my comp, I will add more as I remember/find time, so for anyone that wants a look, here you go:
BT Insp (http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=9UJB57vvT0ngDAILu6OCkQ%3D%3D&page=1)

Some of them are there for the pose, some for the armour/weapon details and some for background.

Rank is denoted by amount of hair and the amount of cloth/placement of cloth, ranks are as such; Neophytes (Scouts),
Firesupport Initiates (Marines),
Crusader Squad Initiates (Marines),
Sword Brethren (Veterans)

Neophytes carry the iconography/heraldry of their master (Crusader Squad Initiate they are bound to), in a back banner, are not allowed any other material, no facial hair;
Firesupport Initiates carry the beginnings of their own heraldry and kill markings (have to achieve a certain number of kills before they can join crusader squads) and are obligated to wear robes, short facial hair;
Crusader Squad Initiates bear their own heraldry, and are permitted to wear Tabards, medium length facial hair;
Sword Brethren bear their own heraldry and are gifted cloaks, long facial hair.




My scouts will be hairless, well maybe a small bit of stubble, with back banners whose heraldry corresponds with an Initiates, ie one Neophyte for one Initiate (only in the crusader squads), properly fluffly ratio :D

These are the three models that inspired my decision to give my fire support units robes:

Heavy Bolter (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=400028&pIndex=1&aId=2600025&start=2)

Missile Launcher (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=400028&pIndex=4&aId=2600025&start=5)

Plasma Cannon (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=400028&pIndex=6&aId=2600025&start=7)

As you can see, beautiful. They nearly made me do a DA army instead of Templars.


I think thatís enough of an intro, donít you?

Cheers
E

PS any questions or advice, ask away :)

The Commodore
16-01-2009, 08:08 AM
I think I will keep an eye on this.

Eodred
16-01-2009, 08:10 AM
The fastest response I've ever had in any of my threads, thanks :)

E

The Commodore
16-01-2009, 08:14 AM
No worries.

Marticus
16-01-2009, 09:58 AM
aye dude should be intriguing to see what happens with this one

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
16-01-2009, 03:56 PM
Subscription added mate.

Ok, seeing as you have been ill for a long time, I am sure an extension can be provided at the the very least if you are unsure you can finish.

Oh and all of my stuff is done mate! :D (If you want to eat my dust then you will have to pick it up off the floor :p)

LAZtheinfamous
16-01-2009, 08:59 PM
Subscribed.

Eodred
19-01-2009, 04:09 AM
Well, believe it or not, I'm still cleaning them :o

Being as I plan to do quite detailed urban bases, I think I'll have to do them before assembling the minis, to make sure that they fit on the bases.

Spent quite a while finding all the tutorials that I'll be using (these are mainly just the ones from Atsro, there'll probably be more from elsewhere).

Will use
Astro mag 1 Page 13 Pre Heresy Bolters

Astro Mag 2 Page 12 - 18 Anyone Got a Razor?, Nothing Says Devotion Like Some Cleansing or Warping Flames!, Going Green - From Snot To Hot Stuff!

Cyclops Pattern Helmets
http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=443&Itemid=99

Marine, kneel before me!
http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=241&Itemid=99

Marines Reloading
http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=254&Itemid=99

Urban Basing, Painting and Lighting.
http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=484&Itemid=99

Chimera: Master Class!
http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9532

Astartes Power Armour Identification Guide.
http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8279


May Use
Making Helmet Crests.
http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=238&Itemid=99

Salt dipping, Repositioning limbs without all the cutting and sculpting
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=112647

Desert Raiders Sentinel Squadron
http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8296

Video: Making a railing/balcony
http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5752

Updated WIP 40k Bell tower project thread
http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5591

Boltman's Interactive NMM tutorial, For those who wish to learn
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=74782




Being as itís a five man squad, all of them will have to be converted to get the point, meaning I should be able to salvage 9 points if I get all of this unit painted. I think trying to do a second unit when I missed so much time at the beginning is asking too much, being as I havenít got the vouchers I need to order them
yet.


Also found some good reference for damaged roads:
http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=Uimu5wbGIK8s0OyvkPpq%2Bg%3D%3D

http://i34.tinypic.com/29nc6ev.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/11u89l2.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/4smidi.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/ms0t4o.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/clzcj.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2582yw6.jpg

The top three are the most doable, taking time constraints into it.

Once I've finished cleaning them this is what I'll be doing :eek:

Cheers for reading
E

Nomad
19-01-2009, 04:46 AM
Pleased to see you back in action. I think that we, the other competitors, can allow a little more time for you, considering the circumstances. I know I have no problem with it.

Good Luck!

Eodred
19-01-2009, 04:55 AM
:D

Thankye, I will need all the luck I can get.

Cheers
E

Eodred
19-01-2009, 07:39 AM
http://i38.tinypic.com/23j3h9i.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2cxstjb.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2ljjntd.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/33e4gad.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/r1evxc.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2f06s88.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/j9vxqs.jpg

If I get any quick responses I can adjust it before the milliput dries.

It's supposed to represent a damaged road like the pics I posted earlier.

Does it look like a damaged road?

Would it look better with smoother edges or keep them rough as they are at the moment?

Cheers
E

Nomad
19-01-2009, 08:55 AM
Keep it rough. Definitely.

Maybe have a little higher on one side to look like the road piece has twisted a bit.

Eodred
19-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Rightyo do think the right side would work better?

The only problem I've just thought of is that this torso would be a pig to fit on there.

I think actually I'll lower the left side a bit at the front and raise it a bit at the back, more twisted that way.

Next base:
http://i37.tinypic.com/29cw95w.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2pr6zif.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2h4xoip.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/16hq4ye.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/347vhhe.jpg

Eodred
19-01-2009, 10:00 AM
I have moar:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2lt2147.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2a5lqgp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/25p5qtg.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/izypkw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/43rcj.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ib2ues.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/j9vmf6.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2gwi4vt.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/dzcpaw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/a4mszn.jpg

The first two are test pieces for using milliput, they're also test pieces for the chapter symbol.

So what do you think?
The pics of the base are after adjustment.

Cheers
E

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
19-01-2009, 10:14 AM
Looks very good so far mate, keep it up! :)

Eodred
19-01-2009, 02:28 PM
I could do with some opinions please.

Which do you think'll look best as a fire support marine?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2ebr783.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/33jqnhu.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2dadedw.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/vg60qv.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/yfic.jpg


Cheers
E

Edit Nomads suggestion added.

Nomad
19-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Maybe Red stripe/black trim on shoulder guard (no#2) but with red trim on opposite guard?

Eodred
19-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Will do a mock up.

Cheers
E

Nomad
19-01-2009, 02:54 PM
The line around the outside of the shoulder guard.

Eodred
19-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Sorry about that, worked it out just after I'd posted.

Here you go:
http://i36.tinypic.com/vg60qv.jpg

What do you reckon?
E

Nomad
19-01-2009, 03:09 PM
I quite like that one. Or the last one in the main lot (Black stripe/ red trims)

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
19-01-2009, 04:19 PM
I think the one with red trims on both sides and the black stripey bit is good enough, add red to the knee caps to as it just creates a bit of space in between the oodles of black etc. :)

Nomad
19-01-2009, 04:36 PM
I was thinking the same about the knee pads also. A red stripe would be good.

Eodred
19-01-2009, 04:38 PM
One thing, I'm planning on doing a crusade badge down by one of the knees and I think that a coloured kneecap would detract from it.

Cheers
E

Nomad
19-01-2009, 04:45 PM
True. Keep the focus where it counts.

Eodred
19-01-2009, 06:14 PM
I was also thinking about maybe giving them (fire support?) a different coloured helmet, something like this:
http://i37.tinypic.com/ad12rs.jpg

Sorry itís small I donít have the original image, itís someonesí avatar.

Crusader squad Initiate:
http://i33.tinypic.com/11io1aw.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/j6k3s5.jpg

I wasn't planning on giving the crusader squads red shoulder pads as it goes against the codex, but I'm thinking I may make it part of their fluff as it looks particularly good.

Assault Marine:
http://i36.tinypic.com/25s0r4j.jpg

What dyu reckon?

No more bases today as I've been up a long time and need sleep.
Cheers
E

Hephesto
19-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Looking good Eodred, also keep an eye on your inbox. I'll be responding to your pm in a little while ;)

Eodred
21-01-2009, 04:29 PM
Just to give you an idea of what they'll look like:
http://i36.tinypic.com/svgnf8.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2132ja8.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/280jsqh.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/iog2lg.jpg

Assembled with white blu tack, incase you were wondering.

Now, I've never assembled a marine before and the joints seem very weird, any advice?

Cheers
E

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
21-01-2009, 04:32 PM
That's pretty impressive mate, remember you have 10 days to do it in but I am sure an extension will be allowed. :)

Eodred
21-01-2009, 04:35 PM
Thanks and true, 10 days is not much time.

Will ask about an extension.

Cheers
E

Marticus
21-01-2009, 04:51 PM
liking it dude!!!

Eodred
23-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Just thought I'd let you lot know where I'm at at the moment, well the five bases have been built and all but three components have been cleaned, I've got to find a quicker way of doing it, spent many hours (yes hours) cleaning five minis.

Shouldn't take me longer to convert them than it took me to clean them.

E is now in need of sleep.

Toodle-oo

Eodred
24-01-2009, 08:09 PM
Some pics for ye:

Disassembled marine
http://i33.tinypic.com/1zlq5vm.jpg

Post cleaning bits box
http://i35.tinypic.com/2a9yv0y.jpg

The bases from 360 degrees
http://i34.tinypic.com/24o6glf.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/33pas13.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/mtnm07.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/detunn.jpg


The marine is at stage 2 in this (http://www.astronomican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=241&Itemid=99) except that mine has been cleaned and his hasn't.

Cheers
E

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
24-01-2009, 08:58 PM
Wow, that's insane mate! :eek:

Eodred
24-01-2009, 10:35 PM
:D
Which bit?

E

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
24-01-2009, 10:47 PM
The full 100% of it! :D

Eodred
24-01-2009, 11:01 PM
Thankye :D

I've got another marine to do the same to once this one's done.

He's now at stage five btw.

Oh and once the legs've been done the bolter has to be aswell. :(

But if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well.


Cheers
E

Silver
24-01-2009, 11:06 PM
I wish you all the best in finishing it in time - I see you getting on the gravy train regarding points for conversion soon! :D

Eodred
24-01-2009, 11:25 PM
Thanks and yes, need the points, being as I wont get the second unit done.

Cheers
E

Eodred
25-01-2009, 06:49 AM
Lets be clear, these are for the poses, no GS has been introduced yet.

Version 1
http://i37.tinypic.com/5lwgh1.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/k3ofpk.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/33m0j2x.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/fn8l6c.jpg

Version 2
http://i36.tinypic.com/2rdk8e8.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zm304x.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/16k9fzt.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2j60prb.jpg

Eodred
25-01-2009, 06:51 AM
Version 3
http://i38.tinypic.com/2aeyqmu.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2j5mfiv.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/23uvq5z.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/33pdlas.jpg

Right these are past the ideas stage and will be GSd in the next day, hopefully :D

Any C&C?

Cheers
E

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
25-01-2009, 11:34 AM
Make your hands red mate!

Red Wunz Go Fasta! :D

No real criiscism though mate these are pretty spiffy so far. :)

Eodred
25-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Thankye, don't think I've got enough paint though :D

More updates in a min.

E

Eodred
25-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Well here they are:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2rco8ld.jpg
Milliput is evil, atleast the type im using.

http://i35.tinypic.com/5maeew.jpg
Actually stuck on now :eek:

http://i35.tinypic.com/9jgapx.jpg
You can see the ribbed bit at the top that I've sculpted on, had to stop there because the milliput would not let me do anymore :mad:

http://i36.tinypic.com/34q8rvl.jpg
I've also had a disagreement with my GW superglue, it aint super and it aint glue.

http://i38.tinypic.com/1z69kbo.jpg

So, what do you lot think?

Any recommendations for:

Alternate glue?
Alternate blades/knife?
Alternate clippers?
Razor saw?

There was something else aswell but I cant think of it at the mo.

Cheers
E

Captain Castus
25-01-2009, 02:32 PM
Any superglue except Citadel will do a better job! I use loctite which seems to work fine...

I tend to use GS for this kind of work rather than Milliput... Is there a reason you're using this?

What's also useful is to stick the bits together on a wire (or cut paper clip) 'skeleton' rather than trying to actually glue tham together... And then fill the gaps after...

CC

p.s. A razor saw is v.useful for cutting bits like this...

Eodred
25-01-2009, 02:39 PM
Any superglue except Citadel will do a better job! I use loctite which seems to work fine...

I tend to use GS for this kind of work rather than Milliput... Is there a reason you're using this?

What's also useful is to stick the bits together on a wire (or cut paper clip) 'skeleton' rather than trying to actually glue tham together... And then fill the gaps after...

CC

p.s. A razor saw is v.useful for cutting bits like this...


1. Right will find some.

2. Its cheaper and I'm trying it for the first time, Im also short on GS at the mo.

3. It is on a wire, and I tried to stick it with the GW non-super glue.

4. I got that from the original tut, know any good makes?
Im guessing, but maybe the GW one isn't worth getting?

I used the old GW jewelers saw, which did a decent job btw.

Cheers for the reply.
E

LAZtheinfamous
25-01-2009, 03:38 PM
As for glue, I agree with Castus, loctite is the way to go. Much more expensive, but the way that the little bottles are designed saves alot of glue. So while you get maybe 1.5x the times as a little tube of superglue, much less waste so on bottle can put together a whole army, instead of 4-5 little tubes. You can pick up one of the cool bottles for about 2.99-3.99 US. I get the control extra time version, because they don't instantly bond, so you can take a bit of time to get things positioned just right. Yes you do have to hold it for a little longer, but well worth it.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/laztheinfamous/IMG_1417.jpg

As for hobby knives/saws/whatever. I tend to buy box cutters that are 2 for a buck and have the snap off the dull blades. With the way that these slide out, you can use them for a variety of needs, up to and including sawing.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/laztheinfamous/IMG_1419.jpg

I would suggest only using miliput for internal stuff, and using green stuff for top layers. I tend to use only GS, that's just me though.

Pictures included for demonstration purposes, not thread jacking.

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
25-01-2009, 03:54 PM
I suggest for hobby knives x-act blades. GW actually have a tool which utilises them and I must say it is a far better grip than the metal grip that x-acto blades can come with. Sure they are cheaper but the GW one is much easier to work with.

Hope it helps! :)

Captain Castus
25-01-2009, 03:57 PM
FH is right... X-acto blades are good...

As for greenstuff being expensive... Only the GW stuff is pricey... You can get larger amounts from other companies for much less...

CC

EDIT e.g. Here (http://www.barrule.com/workshop/scratch%20builders%20paradise/green%20stuff%20magic%20sculp%20milliput%20brown%2 0stuff.html)...

Eodred
25-01-2009, 09:33 PM
@ Castus and FH, will get the GW knife then. Thanks for the link CC.

@Laz will try and find that specific type, looks very useful, have got some of those knives, Iíve never gotten on with them. Will keep milliput for internal stuff from now on, I wouldnít accuse you of thread jacking.


Right the tools Iíve been using for this:
http://i36.tinypic.com/a5jgyf.jpg
GW

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ic5s7s.jpg
GW

http://i34.tinypic.com/xannk4.jpg
GW

http://i33.tinypic.com/vq7fvq.jpg
NON GW

http://i34.tinypic.com/2qstemv.jpg
GW

http://i33.tinypic.com/2ew1xl1.jpg
It Screwed

http://i37.tinypic.com/8xo64z.jpg
It definitely Screwed

http://i38.tinypic.com/mrr8fd.jpg
Non GW

http://i36.tinypic.com/slsoig.jpg
Definitely Non GW

http://i34.tinypic.com/5eae6d.jpg
GW and screwed


So, youíve seen what Iíve been using, the damaged stuff needs replacing; advice on what and where best to get it from would be welcome, thanks.

Miniís in a min.
E

Eodred
25-01-2009, 09:46 PM
I quite like the look of non ridged soft armour:
http://i34.tinypic.com/35mfcxx.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2z82snd.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2mrxtsz.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/24pgpz9.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/2rr5ldx.jpg
Successful mould :D Half GS half milliput.

The milliput was removed before GS went on.
Right, once Iíve decided what weapon heís going to have (either pre-heresy bolter or plasma) then Iíll start sculpting his robes. Hopefully wont take too long if I use a wire mesh frame.

With the plasma what do you do about a hand to hold it? Hack one of a bolter or what?

What do you reckon?

Cheers
E

PS A little encouragement never goes amiss :rolleyes:

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
25-01-2009, 09:54 PM
Well, this work is pretty good mate. I like the soft armour right now. Very different and unique.

I'll give you some rep if you at least finish one model. :)

Eodred
25-01-2009, 09:56 PM
By the rules you sent out, finished is 3 paints, that's more than doable :D

E

Captain Castus
26-01-2009, 10:13 AM
A little encouragement never goes amiss :rolleyes:

WOOT! Go Eodred Go!

:p

CC

Eodred
29-01-2009, 10:17 PM
You'd be surprised how much effort had gone into it by that point CC.

I have 40, yes four zero pics to put up, so bear with me.

E

Edit tinypic is being ignorant, so will take longer than I thought.

Edit.2 It's actually 33 pics, it's now lying to me; oh the joys of technology.

Edit.3 Well having now posted all the pics and counted them, I can see that tinypic can't count. There are 25 pics in case you were wondering.

Eodred
29-01-2009, 10:37 PM
State of them 2-3 days ago.

http://i33.tinypic.com/28aj0ol.jpg
Group shot.



http://i36.tinypic.com/2igfz7k.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2mfd837.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2h3yk50.jpg
50/50 Milliput/GS


http://i38.tinypic.com/2zzuws8.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2s7ykpx.jpg
Same framework that's on all of them.

Eodred
29-01-2009, 11:32 PM
How they stand at the mo.

Front, without bases.
http://i36.tinypic.com/2z9jus5.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2l5n41.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2s01z6e.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/20pdfp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/auyu8h.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/vn32hg.jpg

Hephesto
29-01-2009, 11:33 PM
Looking mighty fine Eodred, also kep an eye on your mailbox. Some reinforcements are on route ;)

Eodred
29-01-2009, 11:35 PM
:D :D :D :D :D

E

Eodred
29-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Backs, no bases.
http://i35.tinypic.com/ab6v43.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u9qvbc.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/345d2rn.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/29f8p5l.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/w99zyp.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2lsisdv.jpg

Eodred
29-01-2009, 11:53 PM
Fronts, bases
http://i34.tinypic.com/116rtqw.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/sennsp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/ic5pmo.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/230kfk.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/14985ds.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/5mfp52.jpg

The darker bits you can see are pure GS, the lighter are a 50/50 mix of GS and Milliput.

Any opinions?

You canít really see the bases at the mo, hereís what they looked like before the paint http://i34.tinypic.com/24o6glf.jpg


Do the bases have to be painted for the unit to count as painted?

Cheers
E

Silver
30-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Do the bases have to be painted for the unit to count as painted?

If you apply sand/texture to the bases, then you need not color them, but the sides of the bases have to be colored nevertheless. Nice work, man!

Eodred
30-01-2009, 12:58 AM
Thanks :D

I might aswell paint them properly then, being as they've already been sanded, it just doesn't show.

Cheers
E

Eodred
30-01-2009, 04:55 AM
Planning Next months stuff.

Do you lot think that having my IC done in true scale would work with the rest of the army being standard size?

ie would just be a big marine?

Any opinions?
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Marticus
30-01-2009, 10:09 AM
liking it so far, i think he would just be a big marine :) keep em coming e

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
30-01-2009, 09:09 PM
I wouldn't mind about the true scale, I am sure if you carry out the general theme it won't look out of place at all. :)

Silver
30-01-2009, 09:18 PM
Hmm...I think it would remind me too much of a Daemon Prince....are you planning to use an Inquisitor model? (sorry I has no clues what truescale means :D)

Kishvier
31-01-2009, 05:43 PM
It means bigger, like normal marines being terminator sized. I know Trygon wrote a 'how too' on how to make them.

Eodred
01-02-2009, 12:52 AM
That is what I was thinking.

Now, I know I'm late I have proof the models were done, it's just my comp being evil, it let me log on, then I put the pics on the comp and the bloody thing had kicked me off the net and wouldn't let me back on :mad:

Now the proof, look on the bottom right hand side. I know it's big, that's so you can see the time on it.
http://i35.tinypic.com/4nyb9.jpg

The highlighted pic is this one:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2ilbwr9.jpg

It aint finished by a long way, but there are three colours on it :p

So it should count.

Close ups:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2lmqdg6.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/9iz78g.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/6oip9c.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/layl5.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/jb1t1c.jpg

So thats 9 points, isn't it? :D

Cheers
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Eodred
01-02-2009, 02:31 AM
Right, the report.
My overall plan is 2-3 small fire support units with 2 huge close combat units, depending on the points. This is the first of those fire support units.
This is going to be one of the few things in my army designed specifically for taking out tanks, thatís the reason for the expensive Lascannon. Roughly 100 points out of 1500 so not much of the total and should be able to earn itsí points back fairly easily.
Being as itís my first foray into 40k itís also part of my attempt at a balanced force able to take on all comers, an odd thing for Templars, but what the hell :D
Another reason I went for this unit, this month, is time factor. Being ill for the first two weeks of a four week schedule sucks, it also makes things very difficult in terms of getting things finished.
The progress of the painting; as was predicted, its not finished. YAY. It is at a reasonable enough standard to use it on a battle field/game board though, and will be finished in the short term.
The painting itself; not much was done.
Colours used: chaos black basecoat for all of it, khemri brown basecoat for the robes, astronomican grey basecoat for the shoulder pads.
Almost all the time spent on them was taken up by the conversion, of which I will now lecture you on :p

My first attempt at making cloaks, my first time using a frame and my first attempt at using milliput. Not a good combination.
Turned out alright though I think. Milliput and Green Stuff 50/50 mix works well for a base, but you cant get it as smooth as pure GS; milliput on itís own, I will not be using again.
Took along time to get a finish I was happy with, many hours, not sure of the exact time, but rest assured it was a long time.
The bases took a reasonable amount of time, but the effect is worth it; time/effect = it is one of the best things you can do.
The other conversion work: I was planning on giving all the bolter armed modes pre-heresy bolters, but time wouldnít allow it, unfortunately. One mini was converted into a kneeling position, which was also my first attempt at doing that conversion. Turned out quite reasonable, took along time, but I will get faster the more I do it, same as with the cloaks.

Cheers
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PS No responses? That really sucks, after all the hard work I put in. Not even a single opinion :(

Kishvier
01-02-2009, 02:48 AM
I really like the cloaks, nice job. Now get working! I know I will!:D

Eodred
01-02-2009, 02:54 AM
I look forward to seeing it mate :)

And thanks :D

I think I'll finish these or at least get a lot closer to it before I start the next lot though.

Cheers
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Kishvier
01-02-2009, 02:55 AM
Okay, well once I finish up fixing mine up I'm onto the next batch!:rolleyes:

Eodred
01-02-2009, 03:44 AM
Will do some clean up and try out a few of the shoulder variants.

Be back in a bit.
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YAY 1000 POSTS :D :D :D :D :D, that's gotta be worth a few responses, surely?

Consadine
01-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Looks like you need to work on sculpting the robes (they aren't dresses any more than a kilt is a skirt :p) as it's easy to figure out which are actual models and which are the ones you made yourself. Practicing that technique would be useful (perhaps making it out of "logs" of GS and using a sculpting tool to smooth them together, thus making the folds in the cloak?). Can't help you much in that department, my skills with sculpting are awful. From your report I gather that a 50/50 mix of GS/Milliput doesn't smooth as well as pure GS. Why not make a rough base and sculpt of the robe with the 50/50 mix and polish it up with pure GS (filling in game, etc)? I just realized I'm echoing Laz's advice earlier about using the milliput as the internal material while the GS is for show... oops :p

I'm going to keep my eye on this thread and drop my 2 cents every so often as best I can :D

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
01-02-2009, 10:35 AM
Tea Towels are looking excellent mate! :)

I'm well into my HQ choice now! :D

Eodred
25-02-2009, 08:57 PM
A few pics:

How it stands/lays at the moment:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2w2locn.jpg
Taking this pic I noticed the pistol is the wrong way up, damn.
Will have to hack it off and re glue it, guess I was more tired when I did it than I thought.

His head, front:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2r2p5z5.jpg

From above:
http://i35.tinypic.com/noiyaq.jpg

Blu-tacked together:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ebcn0j.jpg

Size comparison with standard marine:
http://i36.tinypic.com/xwygp.jpg

Size comparison with a termie:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2dtdis2.jpg

Bits thatíve been cleaned so far:
http://i33.tinypic.com/15znz9u.jpg

My nicely organised 40k bits box:
http://i33.tinypic.com/kbrspl.jpg
Itís no longer this tidy, since more models have arrived.

A little arrival from Heph:
http://i33.tinypic.com/zu0sh.jpg
My Prize and few extras he kindly donated. :D

Any opinions?
Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
25-02-2009, 09:00 PM
That's a very good truescale you have in the works there mate. Excellent model indeed. REP

Consadine
25-02-2009, 09:01 PM
He's mean looking! :eek:
How many true-scale models are you going to do?

Eodred
25-02-2009, 09:17 PM
:D Thanks, my first rep this month :D

For the moment consadine, just him. Helps make him more imposing and I cant spare any termies.
Shame though.

Cheers
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Oh there's more detail on the sword and pistol if anyone is interested.

Marticus
26-02-2009, 10:55 AM
looking good due... hes huge and imposing looking

Hephesto
26-02-2009, 01:15 PM
Sweet lord, that speeder took one hell of a beating during transport >_<

Eodred
23-03-2009, 06:58 PM
Did a bit didn't it?
Ahwell, nothing I can't fix.

Apologies for the long absence, didn't quite get the models finished for last months deadline:o
So I thought I'd show you now, this is how they were (and are):

http://i40.tinypic.com/ivhmh0.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/211p7xs.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/15d03lg.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/ndtz60.jpg


What I'm working on at the mo:
http://i42.tinypic.com/jgnl1u.jpg

And one of the reasons for the delay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/1sax69.jpg
Needed tidying before I could get on with the models.

When/if I get the dread built I'll go back to the marines.

I decided I'm not going to paint anything else to do with these ones till they're all built so should save a bit of time.

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
23-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Back from the dead? :D

But yeah, nice to see you're still doing stuff for the project mate.

Consadine
23-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Looking good! I'm perpetually peeved that my Dread didn't come with a base.

I see Dwarves?? Work on those Marines! :p

Eodred
24-03-2009, 06:26 PM
Dead? Me?
Alright, I wont deny it. :p

Dwarfs? Aye, much better than marines. So there.
Bad luck on the lack of a base, there are nice, very.

As to what I've been doing on the marines today:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wgf86o.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/5bwxes.jpg
The lantern is placed where the skull used to be.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2w72t82.jpg
The little shield replacing the face piece will be GS'd around the edge.

http://i41.tinypic.com/e6akvo.jpg
The plasticard is double layered and fits snugly inside the hole where the standard face plate went, left unglued it can be removed without damaging it, but will stay it I don't fiddle with it.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ugp103.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/10i9bth.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/14m5t1c.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2l9nod4.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qatefn.jpg
Any idea what the wire is for?

They're starting to grow on me.

Any c, c and c?

Cheers
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Consadine
24-03-2009, 06:33 PM
Oh, I've got an idea what the wire is for ;) Missile out the front and exhaust out the side!

Eodred
24-03-2009, 06:38 PM
and you've hit the nail on the head, not too wise when it's an HE round, but never mind :D

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
24-03-2009, 06:47 PM
I like it E, although I wish to see MOAR missilez being fired out!!

Shall I add a link into my signature or will your updates be a bit sporadic like?

Consadine
24-03-2009, 06:47 PM
Have fun trying to pull it off, I've given up trying to work with cotton smoke. Massive props if you can pull it off, though.

Eodred
24-03-2009, 06:53 PM
FH: I think one missile for the time being, as I only have two and plan to do the same to a marine at some point.
Request already made for the sig addage :D

Consa: I'm planning on doing it with GS rather than cotton wool, should help it work. I have seen it pulled off, just can't find the pic :(

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
24-03-2009, 06:56 PM
Added in mate, reminds me I need to hound kishvier to see if he's still in it.

Glad your back mate, we needed some balance of evil in the tale because Hephesto, Me and Kish being good guys makes silver all outnumbered. :D

Consadine
24-03-2009, 06:59 PM
What missiles are you using?

Silver
24-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Added in mate, reminds me I need to hound kishvier to see if he's still in it.

Glad your back mate, we needed some balance of evil in the tale because Hephesto, Me and Kish being good guys makes silver all outnumbered. :D

Yeah right! Dream on, FH....the warp will have frozen over by the time your guys are considered "good". :D By the way...I can't see Eodred in your sig. Might wanna change the color ;)

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
24-03-2009, 07:53 PM
The warp is frozen! Well to you anyway! :p

I'll change the font then. ;)

Eodred
24-03-2009, 08:11 PM
FH and silver: Good and evil are all in the eye of the beeholder, and that depends on how good his gloves are ;)
And thanks for the change of font colour :D

Consa: missiles are from somewhere or other. I'll let you know when I remember.
I think it must be either from the deva set or tact set, can't be sure because I didn't keep the bits separate.

Cheers
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Eodred
25-03-2009, 03:46 AM
This the kind of thing I'm on about, I have spent all the time since my last post trying to find one specific pic and failed:mad:

Anyway, this'll have to do:
http://i42.tinypic.com/zo6f0y.jpg

Kindly modelled by Grimvar on cmon.

The pic I was trying to find was originally from cmon, someone put it on here a while back qand now I can't find it on cmon or here.

The pic in question was a tactical marine firing a missile launcher with smoke coming off the missile. If anybody finds it and can direct me to it, there will be rep and much appreciation delivered.

Cheers
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Hephesto
25-03-2009, 11:37 AM
Know the one you mean mate, haven't been able to find the cursed thing though >_<

Hephesto
25-03-2009, 07:02 PM
Think I found the correct one:

link (http://www.coolminiornot.com/188888) :D

Eodred
29-03-2009, 04:03 AM
Not quite the one I meant, but much closer than the one I found, REP on its way :D

If only I'd checked back sooner, :( as it is, I've finished it. Pics in a few mins.

Cheers
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Eodred
29-03-2009, 04:43 AM
The aforementioned pics. Don't be too harsh it took a good few hours and lots of wasted GS to get this and I'm reasonably happy with it.

I think the missile is from the tactical box Consadine, being as I have another and it's the only box with duplicates in that I can see, that I've bought anyway.

http://i43.tinypic.com/35hodwn.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/24cfy1f.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/t9i7sx.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2la37kl.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2njesex.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/fefp94.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/ixgrbr.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2nrnbic.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/250nfp0.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/hvs949.jpg


More in the next post.
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Eodred
29-03-2009, 04:45 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/2uqelgp.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34taico.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/rky9lv.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2h5rwwk.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/fkr86w.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/mkav5v.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/w1692u.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dv7u4o.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/im8e36.jpg

So what do you lot reckon?
Was it worth the effort?

Any C&C?

Cheers
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Consadine
29-03-2009, 10:04 AM
The missile came out great, and I'm not sure of the smoke. Always a hard effect to pull off. Is the smoke a solid chunk of GS?

Eodred
29-03-2009, 10:48 AM
Thanks :D
When you say "smoke" are you referring to the black stuff or the green stuff?

I've been up a fairly long time so the old brains not working aswell as it should.

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
29-03-2009, 12:28 PM
That's nice mate. Definately +1 point for conversion there. (When we see it all together! :p)

Consadine
29-03-2009, 12:32 PM
Thanks :D
When you say "smoke" are you referring to the black stuff or the green stuff?

The black stuff.

Eodred
29-03-2009, 12:50 PM
FH: Thanks :D and, it is all together, look at the first seven pics :p

Consadine: Nope, sprayed cotton wool. What do you reckon?


And the thing's left unglued, deliberately. It can be assembled and used without being stuck together, it will also help with the painting when I get around to it.
I have no intention of gluing it in the future, incase you were wondering.

There is no blue tack or anything else holding it together, just gravity and pins.

Cheers
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Consadine
29-03-2009, 12:53 PM
Ah, that'll do it. I was thinking either cotton or insulating foam (the kind that comes in a can).

You might want to give some thought to adding some shades of red and orange near the exhaust ports since I assume there would be a flame... or that'll go on the trail behind the missile.

Gideon_Not_Ravenor
29-03-2009, 12:53 PM
Can we see a picture of it fully assembled then battle ready?

Eodred
29-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Consadine: I agree, was thing of doing something like that when I come to paint it.

FH: I'm not sure what you mean, there're pics of it fully assembled at the top of this page :confused:

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
29-03-2009, 01:09 PM
Ah so it is sorry mate my bad! It's this bloody clock resetting stuff! Gah!

Eodred
29-03-2009, 01:11 PM
That's alright mate, don't worry about it.

Not enough sleep? :D

I've not had any yet.
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Eodred
16-04-2009, 08:33 PM
I think its about time I finally give a report on last month.

So... last months stuff. Expanded by 1 of the required slots = 3 points, significantly converted mini = 1 point, = a grand total of 4 points :D

Ahwell.

Right, my reasoning behind this choice was for another anti-tank unit, that would also look good on the table. I was also sick of trying to assemble marines. Or more precisely, spending hours cleaning marine parts and then finding that there's a piece that doesn't fit and end up missing the deadline. Let alone finding the time to paint.

Bah humbug.

A dread with Lascannon and missile launcher is (or knowing my luck, might be) usefull against infantry and armour, what with the blast template option of the missile launcher. I'm planning of making it a venerable dread in the army list, (unless I field a close combat dread aswell), which should increase his survivability and make him more effective at taking down armour, being as it would give me the option to take the tank hunter vet skill and I most probably will, unless I desperately need the points elsewhere.

The reason for the conversion is that the dread will be somewhat of a centrepiece of the army when its on the table, being as it will most probably be the only form of armour :eek:.
A little odd, but it does play both to the fluff and the rules of the Templars, aswell as meaning I've got more of a canvass in the marines to help me get the best painted award.

Yes I am still planning on getting the army to that point by the time the UK GTs start in October. That's also why I'm not rushing.

277 words, bugger.

Um.


Why I chose the Dread over some of the other elite choices open to me.

Sword Brethren. Well, as I said previously I'd had enough of not painting marines, so that ruled out sword brethren; being as I don't like their models anyway, it would have meant many hours of conversions and then I may not have fielded them, they're also a large points sink, (comparable to the dread, if not greater) and the dread is a much nicer model.

Assault Termies. They were my originally planned unit for this month, but having gone over the army list again, (and again and again and again and well, you get the picture) I decided that for them to be of any use I would have to have a Land Raider aswell and given the amount of points those two units take up (465 minimum), I decided that there are other things that would look better in the army, aswell as sit closer to the background, atleast until I get to Apoc size and can field them with the proper rules for storm shields.

Ranged Termies. They would have had a place in my army but for one simple reason: I can't afford £25 for a unit that may or may not be fielded most of the time. I already have 5 assault termies and am just a few storm bolters and assault cannons short of making them ranged termies, but I like the idea of saving them for the True Scaled HQ choices for the Templars. I did (and do) have enough parts to make a Termy command squad with them, but it wouldn't have met the FOC slot requirement for this month and they wouldn't have been used in most games and would therefore have been a waste of nice (and expensive) minis.

Techmarine. I do have one (yes apart from the one I'm about to send to you Deathboon). It has been stripped. But, I have no servitors (not even the spare arms and weapons to make usable ones out of the ones Deathboon had) and a techmarine is near useless without servitors (in my mind atleast), it's a fair few points, comes under the Templar shooting rules (whereas the dread doesn't) and isn't that nice a model.
I Will paint it up at some point, but whether it makes in into this army, I can't say.

The dread is the nicest of the models available for this months FOC slot (apart from the Mail order only techmarine and the Forge World dread, which will both probably be added to my collection at some point in the middle distance) and as such has been done.

Hmm, 270 words to go.

Um.

The reasoning behind the conversions. Well, the banner will carry the heraldry of the entombed marine, it also raises the height of the mini making it more impressive.
The lascannon has had the lantern added to tie it in with the archetypal theme of bringing the Emperors Light to the darkness of the galaxy, it will also let me put some OSL on that side of the Dread, depending on how it looks once I've done the flaming contrail of the missile I'll decide if it adds to it or whether to remove it. I might add the demon heads from the Chaos vehicle sprue instead or aswell as the lantern, if I can get hold of them, that is.
The flaming missile, is a big part of this mini, that's what it was designed to be, it will let me show of and if it doesn't work, well there's always a saw.
The replacement faceplate is there because I don't like the ones that come with the dread, because it looks good, because it stands out a bit more than just a well painted standard one and because it fits better with the theme of knights fighting for honour as apposed to machines firing at faceless entities.

Not sure what else I can say, but I'm still below the minimum word count by about 50 - 60 words :eek:

Ah yes, what could I do better?
And don't say paint them, because it aint going to happen for quite a while, not until it's all assembled, beings as I want to try what was suggested in the last(?) White Dwarf, ie that of assembling it all then painting it all. It's not something I've tried before, but then I've not managed to get an army to a high standard before, individual units, yes; individual heroes, yes; but in the past when I've painted one unit as good as I can, I've got a result I'm reasonably happy with, then painted another unit and it's been better than the last thing I painted by quite a bit. So, I have to go back and repaint the previous unit, when that's done the new unit is better o I have to repaint that or leave it at a standard that I'm not happy with.

You see the problem I have?

So I've decided to try painting a whole army at the same time, now that I can paint to a standard that I'm happy with consistently.

Aha, I'm finally over the 1000 word threshold. And don't blame me for the rambling, I was only attempting to reach the minimum requirement.

13 points in total.

One last question, if your eyes aren't bleeding, why is it that you lot don't like my minis?

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
16-04-2009, 08:57 PM
Haha, the 1,000 word minimum was reviewed and revoked after I did my review mate. :D

Eodred
16-04-2009, 09:04 PM
Ahhh, ohwell.

What is it now?

Cheers
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Gideon_Not_Ravenor
16-04-2009, 09:08 PM
Just so long as you make an attempt at a review.

Eodred
16-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Ahwell.

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Silver
16-04-2009, 09:54 PM
Indeed, keeping it short and to-the-point is also fine :)

Consadine
21-04-2009, 05:37 PM
So what's up here? More pictures, ye fool! :p

Eodred
22-04-2009, 05:44 AM
Ah someone is interested :eek:


Well nothing's been done, apart from the stripping of the 9 Death Company I got off Mart. I was trying to assemble the speeder I got off Heph as my halloween prize, but it got quite mangled in the post, and being as I don't have an instruction sheet, nor know where the bits go, I'm a little stuck, so I think I'll take into my local GW for some advice.

So no pint for pics really, :o
Unless you want to see post stripping Death Company?

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